Re: I found the S orbital

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: I found the S orbital
Date	2018-08-16 13:18 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd-
> Anyway.
> Electrons move.
> And they move fast.

Yes. 

> And they must therefore follow the most efficient way around the atom.

No. There is no trajectory for electrons in the atom. 

I know this just eludes you, and you never seem to want to read up on it to
fix it. Ignorance is curable, stupidity is terminal. 

> The 1:2 movement has all parts of the atom following identical pathways,
> which is good for P orbitals.
> Now, I find that the 1:2:2 path is only available for a maximum of 2
> members, and covers the sphere more fully than a 1:2 path, and I think “S orbital”.
> Not unreasonable, hey?
> 
> You were right that my CH4 didn’t fill the bill., I think there’s another
> spin combination that is a variant on the 1:2 that will do CH4 better-
> the one corresponding to SP3. A tetrahedron should fall out of it. Now
> that I found the S, I have a better sense of where to look.
> 
> If I find that, do you give?

Give on what? It’s been repeated over and over that you have to be able to
calculate numbers with a real physical theory, and you just don’t want to
hear that. 

> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 08:22 -0700
  I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 07:25 -0700
    Re: I found the S orbital Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-14 11:01 -0500
      Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 11:22 -0700
      Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 11:24 -0700
        Re: I found the S orbital Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-14 18:01 -0500
          Re: I found the S orbital Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-15 00:26 -0500
        Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-15 07:32 +0000
  Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-15 07:31 +0000
    Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 08:38 -0700
      Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-15 16:08 +0000
        Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 09:30 -0700
          Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 17:24 +0000
            Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 16:04 -0700
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                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 00:00 +0000
              Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 00:00 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 17:15 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 00:31 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 00:38 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 17:59 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:18 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 06:52 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 06:57 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 14:48 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 08:17 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 18:04 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 18:29 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 19:09 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 19:36 -0700
                Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-16 04:07 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:18 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:18 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-16 04:04 +0000
                Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:18 +0000
              Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-16 04:00 +0000
          Re: I found the S orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-16 03:55 +0000
        Re: I found the S orbital Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-15 12:26 -0500
      Re: I found the S orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 17:03 +0000

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