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Re: Spinning atoms

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Spinning atoms
Date 2018-07-11 13:31 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd and Michael
> 
> Spinning objects cannot be precessed.

Yes they can. With an external torque. 

> However, there are special cases where:
> a. The spin and precession start at the same time.
>     and
> b. The spin and precession are in phase

What circumstances are those? Not what you draw. What is the physical
driver that makes that happen? Do you know?

Physics is not what you can draw. 

> 
> At first, I was thinking that 1:1 and 1:2 are the start of a series, but
> now I’m not so sure if they’re not the only  ones. 
> Here’s the 1:1
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF
>  See how the same side of the disc is always more advanced? Now, if one
> accords gyroscopic properties to both the spins, the only way the object
> can react to forces on it is to go down the line where the two spin
> planes intersect when P is at maximum. Which occurs twice per cycle. See?
> 



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Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 23:02 -0700
  Re: Spinning atoms mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 00:06 -0700
    Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 11:41 +0200
    Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-11 11:51 -0500
      Re: Spinning atoms mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 14:12 -0700
        Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-11 17:57 -0500
          Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 18:45 -0700
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              Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 08:51 -0700
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                Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-13 15:01 -0500
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  Re:Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 11:39 +0200
    Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:26 +0000
      Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 05:48 -0700
        Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 12:54 +0000
          Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 06:51 -0700
            Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:29 +0000
              Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:47 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:53 +0200
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:57 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 08:01 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 18:07 +0200
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:38 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 09:46 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:58 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 17:09 +0200
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 08:30 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:38 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-10 16:01 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:38 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-11 04:31 +0200
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 03:39 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 01:08 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 09:39 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 05:58 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 06:19 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 13:31 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-11 16:10 +0200
                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 13:29 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-11 14:36 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 08:02 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-11 18:46 +0200
                Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-11 14:32 +0000
            Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-10 14:57 +0000
      Re: Spinning atoms "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:13 -0700
        Re: Spinning atoms "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-10 15:29 -0700
  Re: Spinning atoms "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:16 -0700
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