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Re: Newton and Galilean relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean relativity
Date 2018-07-06 20:50 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 7:53:26 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 10:08:59 AM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 5:12:17 PM UTC-4, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:55:53 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That's simple algebra. Start with the standard Lorentz transform
>>>>>>>> t' = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and substitute x=vt, and you have
>>>>>>>> t' = (t-v(vt)/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), which becomes
>>>>>>>> t' = (t-(v^2)t/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).
>>>>>>>> This further simplifies to t' = t(1-v^2/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>>>>>> and further to t' = t*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, but I think you are making a mistake in the substitution.
>>>>>>> With two sets of Galilean transformation equations, we get
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> n' = t-vt/c = t-vx/c^2
>>>>>>> if and only if x=ct or x = -ct .
>>>>>>> If you put x=vt into this equation, it is not going to work.
>>>>>>> The thirty miles per second is shown already by v.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It appears clear to me that you do not even understand
>>>>>> the Galilean equations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm going back to just lurking on this topic.
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand the Galilean transformation equations.
>>>> 
>>>> No. you really don't.
>>>> 
>>>>> I will admit that I do not understand the Lorentz equations,
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, then we agree on one thing.
>>>> 
>>>>> but, then, I do not think anyone else does either.
>>>> 
>>>> There you go off the rails again.
>>>> Oh well.
>>>> ed
>>> 
>>> Well, take relativity of simultaneity, for instance.  I gave halst... a
>>> problem.  Two bolts of lightning strike the ends of a moving train
>>> simultaneously as seen by an observer on the ground, leaving marks on the
>>> train and on the railroad track.  How far apart are the marks on the track?
>>> The Galilean transformation equations give the obviously correct answer: 
>>> The marks on the track are the length of the train apart. 
>> 
>> As measured by an observer on the ground. But for any other observer for
>> whom the strikes are not simultaneous then they are obviously not the
>> length of the train apart. 
>> 
> Well, now you are getting out of lockstep with these other SR people. 
> They all say that the marks on the track will be closer than the length
> of the train apart, 

Well that must be a different length measurement, perhaps as measured by an
observer on the ground. 

But the marks on the track are the length of the train apart as measured by
an observer on the ground. 

If you just say “length of the train” without specifying the frame in which
the measurement is made, then you are being hopelessly vague. It’d be just
like you saying that it’s 6pm in the city — what city?

> and from the frame of reference of the train, they will be even closer
> together than they are from the frame of reference of the track.  All I
> can tell you is that I am glad I found out about the 
> Galilean transformation equations where the marks on the track are the
> length of the train apart from any frame of reference. 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-21 02:21 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 23:33 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-06-26 06:22 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 09:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 17:10 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 21:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 14:32 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 22:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 23:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 05:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 16:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 09:41 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 16:55 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 21:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 14:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 11:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 18:37 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 00:04 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 10:52 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 14:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 21:39 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 16:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 01:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 17:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 18:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 18:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 20:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 22:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 08:43 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 09:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 14:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 15:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 18:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 21:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 22:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 04:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 05:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-03 17:14 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 18:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 00:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-04 09:04 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 10:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-04 13:44 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 13:31 -0700

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