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Re: Fermat

From Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Fermat
Date 2018-07-04 10:13 +0000
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Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 7/3/18 11:52 AM, RichD wrote:
>> What happens to Fermat's principle of least time, in conditions of
>> strong gravity, curved space?
> 
> Nothing. Though in GR it is curved spaceTIME [@]: Spacelike geodesics
> are still paths of extremal (usually minimum) distance, and timelike
> geodesics are still paths of extremal (usually maximum) proper time.
> Small objects [#] still follow timelike geodesics. But large objects do
> not, for the simple reason that they affect the geometry of spacetime.

Once again, fully consistent with my

_Divergent Matter of the Moving Bodies Model_. Mister Einstine went 
farther than Newton, providing a MECHANISM for the fictitious "force of 
gravity", but NOT far enough as I do. He didn't complete the square, so to 
speak.

> [@] Speaking loosely, it is curvature involving the time direction 
> that generates "acceleration due to gravity".

Time has no direction in 3d space. On an axis, it always has one, but 
that's fictitious correspondingly.

> [#] "Small" in the sense that their effect on geometry can be
> neglected. Tom Roberts

Disregard size, that "geometry" will still be ONE geometry super-
positioned, not two nor many. You are doing a little mistake I suppose.

But geometry alone is not providing the required MECHANISM. The fictitious 
"curvature" of the empty spacetime can't possibly have any internal 
structure. Hence, no mechanism is added to the Model.

Excellent post, thank you.

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Fermat RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-03 09:52 -0700
  Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-03 13:50 -0500
    Re: Fermat Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-04 10:13 +0000
    Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 11:58 -0700
      Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-04 15:08 -0500
        Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 22:23 -0700
    Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-07-04 12:54 -0700
      Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-04 17:12 -0500
        Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 22:25 -0700
        Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:45 -0700
          Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-05 12:05 -0500
          Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:40 -0700
        Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-11 11:42 -0700
    Re: Fermat RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 09:19 -0700
      Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-05 13:09 -0500
        Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:08 -0700
          Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 16:55 -0700
            Re: Fermat Owen Scharff <nehh@fenvhw.ho> - 2018-08-12 11:21 +0000
              Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:29 -0700
                Re: Fermat Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-13 21:35 +0000
                Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 14:44 -0700
            Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 11:36 -0700
              Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:31 -0700
                Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 16:26 -0700
            Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-13 09:08 -0700
              Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:33 -0700
                Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 16:36 -0700
                Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 19:18 -0700
                Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 22:11 -0700
                Re: Fermat Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-16 19:15 +0000
                Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-14 12:36 -0700
                Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 13:21 -0700
                Re: Fermat Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-14 20:26 +0000
                Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 09:29 -0700
                Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 09:25 -0700
                Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-16 12:19 -0500
                Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 10:44 -0700

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