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| From | Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Fermat |
| Date | 2018-07-04 10:13 +0000 |
| Organization | eternal-september.org NNTP server |
| Message-ID | <phi6k0$f33$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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Tom Roberts wrote: > On 7/3/18 11:52 AM, RichD wrote: >> What happens to Fermat's principle of least time, in conditions of >> strong gravity, curved space? > > Nothing. Though in GR it is curved spaceTIME [@]: Spacelike geodesics > are still paths of extremal (usually minimum) distance, and timelike > geodesics are still paths of extremal (usually maximum) proper time. > Small objects [#] still follow timelike geodesics. But large objects do > not, for the simple reason that they affect the geometry of spacetime. Once again, fully consistent with my _Divergent Matter of the Moving Bodies Model_. Mister Einstine went farther than Newton, providing a MECHANISM for the fictitious "force of gravity", but NOT far enough as I do. He didn't complete the square, so to speak. > [@] Speaking loosely, it is curvature involving the time direction > that generates "acceleration due to gravity". Time has no direction in 3d space. On an axis, it always has one, but that's fictitious correspondingly. > [#] "Small" in the sense that their effect on geometry can be > neglected. Tom Roberts Disregard size, that "geometry" will still be ONE geometry super- positioned, not two nor many. You are doing a little mistake I suppose. But geometry alone is not providing the required MECHANISM. The fictitious "curvature" of the empty spacetime can't possibly have any internal structure. Hence, no mechanism is added to the Model. Excellent post, thank you.
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Fermat RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-03 09:52 -0700
Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-03 13:50 -0500
Re: Fermat Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-04 10:13 +0000
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 11:58 -0700
Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-04 15:08 -0500
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 22:23 -0700
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-07-04 12:54 -0700
Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-04 17:12 -0500
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 22:25 -0700
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 09:45 -0700
Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-05 12:05 -0500
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:40 -0700
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-11 11:42 -0700
Re: Fermat RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 09:19 -0700
Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-05 13:09 -0500
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:08 -0700
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 16:55 -0700
Re: Fermat Owen Scharff <nehh@fenvhw.ho> - 2018-08-12 11:21 +0000
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:29 -0700
Re: Fermat Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-13 21:35 +0000
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 14:44 -0700
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 11:36 -0700
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:31 -0700
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 16:26 -0700
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-13 09:08 -0700
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:33 -0700
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 16:36 -0700
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 19:18 -0700
Re: Fermat Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 22:11 -0700
Re: Fermat Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-16 19:15 +0000
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-14 12:36 -0700
Re: Fermat JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 13:21 -0700
Re: Fermat Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-14 20:26 +0000
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 09:29 -0700
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 09:25 -0700
Re: Fermat Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-16 12:19 -0500
Re: Fermat alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-16 10:44 -0700
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