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Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller

From Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
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Subject Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller
Date 2018-07-02 18:11 -0500
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On 7/2/2018 5:27 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
>> Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller https://realclimatescience.com/2018/06/basic-physics-for-climate-dummies/#comment-108323h
>>
>> My Response:
>> Vortices and jet streams (jet streams being collectives of vortices) have the most dramatic effect on the pressure in earth’s atmosphere, these being the “pressure relief mechanism” of earth’s atmosphere. Vortice activity is also what underlies storms and uplift.
>>
>> Unfortunately the atmospheric sciences are saddled with a 19th century model that depends upon non-physical notions like moist air convections, dry layer capping, and “latent” heat of H2O. These pseudoscientific notions prevent progress in the scientific paradigms that maintain this silliness.
>> Without understanding the role of vortices and jet streams you can’t understand pressure and changes thereof.
>>
>> Accounting for Lorenz’s missing lubrication in the atmosphere
>> https://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16430
>>
>> “We have always known from whence comes the energy that powers the winds: differential air pressure due to the differential heating/cooling from the sun/night, exacerbated by friction from surface features (mountains, valleys, etc.). But what has been perplexing is how and why the flow that ensues from this energy becomes concentrated, producing the high wind speeds we see in jet streams and storms. Generally things in nature don’t reverse entropy (going from less organized [scattered] to more organizes [directed]) unless there is a physical reason for them to do so. A river channels into a stream due to the hills and valleys of a landscape. Where are the hills and valley of the atmosphere and what is the substance, apparently invisible, of which these hills and valleys are comprised and why is evidence of it so fleeting?”
>>
>> James McGinn / Solving Tornadoes
> 
> Stephen Wilde, in response to you,  says:
> July 2, 2018 at 9:39 pm
> 
> James, I have read some of your stuff but regret to have to say that it was not helpful.
> The jets are the consequence of differences in air mass characteristics such that the points of contact are then forced into narrow bands by rotation of the Earth.
> There is nothing perplexing about it so you are chasing a chimaera.
> 

HUGE SMACKDOWN AGAIN !!    "James McGinn chases a chimaera"

"missing Lubrication in the atmosphere" -James McGinn

"things in nature don't reverse entropy" -James McGinn

"Where are the hills and valley of the atmosphere?"  -James McGinn

hey James, go lube up and fly a kite.

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Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 09:59 -0700
  Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 15:27 -0700
    Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-02 18:11 -0500
      Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 19:15 -0700
    Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 19:18 -0700
      Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 22:40 -0700
        Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 02:12 -0700
          Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony HellerWothless troll" pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 07:35 -0700
            Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony HellerWothless troll" James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 07:50 -0700
              Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony HellerWothless troll" pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony HellerWothless troll" James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 11:55 -0700
                Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony HellerWothless troll" Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-03 20:55 -0500
    Re: Basic Physics For Climate Dummies by Tony Heller James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 19:24 -0700

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