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Re: WWDC 2018

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: WWDC 2018
Date 2018-06-06 13:31 +1200
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On 2018-06-05 07:49:10 +0000, gtr said:
> On 2018-06-05 06:40:01 +0000, Your Name said:
>> On 2018-06-05 06:15:03 +0000, gtr said:
>>> On 2018-06-05 01:57:31 +0000, Your Name said:
>>>> 
>>>> Unless you use properly set-up tags (highly unlikely for those who are 
>>>> disorganised enough to litter their Desktop with files in the first 
>>>> place), the Desktop Stacks simply group together files of the same 
>>>> type, making it somewhat useless. You'd be better off at least making 
>>>> your own Desktop folders to store stuff in organised how you want ... 
>>>> or even better, put the files away in properly organised locations in 
>>>> the first place.
>>> 
>>> My wife knows the difference of these basic categories and it think it 
>>> will work well for her.  In any case my wife's level of hapless 
>>> operation is exactly who they are aiming for: A good target.
>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure you've got that correct. I haven't seen any mention of a 
>>>> Finder "get info" panel yet.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a new info panel on the *right* side of the 'Gallery' view, 
>>>> but it only shows the meta data from media files (the video format, the 
>>>> photo dimensions, etc.), not the actual Finder info. Potentially that 
>>>> could eventually be expanded on to show info for other files types.
>>> 
>>> I should probably be correcting my statement from "left-side" to 
>>> "right-side" for some time to come.
>> 
>> Thinking about it after posting that, the panel is not a new feature, 
>> but it will add a bit more functionality than the info panel that 
>> already appears in 'Column' view Finder windows shows.
> 
> Because the info can be calculated in my mind while looking at several 
> columns for several programs means more than "a bit more functionality".

From what I've seen, the new info panel is part of the Finder's 
"Gallery View" (ex-Cover Flow) and it only shows the meta-data 
information for the current file, not a group of files.




>>> Again, I won't be making use of them. I suppose many of us routinely 
>>> become good and routine enhanscements of what the OS has offered us 
>>> over the years, so these various "aids" are really so really a slight 
>>> shift of context.
>> 
>> Apple keeps adding these gimmicks mostly that few people will ever use, 
>> which just adds extra complexity...
> 
> You don't know what people will eventually use and those they will 
> reject, and neither do I.

I don't *know*, but my past guesses have proven to be mostly correct 
for real-world (non-geeky) users.

Apple needs to fix the existing problems, not add more useless fluff.

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WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 09:03 +1200
  Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 17:13 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 18:17 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 21:38 -0400
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:09 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:25 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 06:41 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:57 +1200
        Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:20 -0400
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:31 +0000
              Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:21 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:25 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:29 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 22:04 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 14:29 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 00:42 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 01:05 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 01:16 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 18:46 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:22 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-06 08:45 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:11 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 09:22 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 10:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 22:20 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:17 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:34 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 10:10 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 14:57 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 09:32 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 00:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 06:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:49 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:21 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:23 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 01:12 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:25 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 06:37 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:23 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:24 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:41 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:31 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 00:36 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:30 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:15 -0700
          Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 18:40 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 00:49 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:31 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 18:36 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 15:25 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
      Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:26 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:19 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:00 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-05 22:32 +0200
            Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 21:13 +0000
      Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:24 +0000
  Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:30 +1200
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 00:07 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Peter Kozlov <peter.kozlov@blacksea.design> - 2018-06-05 14:33 -0700
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:37 +1200
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:10 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-07 12:12 +0000
    Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 15:59 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 14:00 +1200

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