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Re: WWDC 2018

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: WWDC 2018
Date 2018-06-05 13:57 +1200
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On 2018-06-05 01:17:11 +0000, gtr said:
> On 2018-06-04 21:13:04 +0000, nospam said:
>> In article <pf49f2$vgv$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As predicted, no new hardware announcements, just tweaks to the various
>>> OSes, mainly useless garbage like "Desktop Stacks" and trying to rework
>>> Quick Look into being a Preview replacement.  :-\
>> 
>> as predicted, more ignorant comments.
> 
> I for one am very interested in *most* of what was offered in the OS 
> changes. And what a boatload of eye-candy!

You say "potahto" (eye-candy), I say "potayto" (pointless gimmickry).  :-)



> I could care less about icons and animated icons and all that stuff, 
> but I know that such frippery has legions of fans.

Yeah, right. We know you'll be making a Memoji  ;-)  just like every 
other iOS user ... until they get bored of the gimmick after a few 
'look at this new gimmick' uses and then never bother using it ever 
again, like the previous Animojis.



> I thought the group facetime stuff was very cool, and again think it 
> will draw in plenty of users--the kind of people who love this sort of 
> stuff. I have an iPhone as does my wife and all my friends; none of us 
> use facetime to my knowledge. Still I wouldn't be shocked to find I'm 
> using it in a few years.
> 
> I wonder if the intent is to draw away users from the competition 
> (android, others) with all these extraordinary bells and whistles.  
> There are a *lot* of bells and whistles!
> 
> Desktop stacks may well be garbage for "Your Name" and of little use to 
> me, since I keep my desktop well organized.  But it will be a 
> *dramatic* way for my wife to understand her haphazard world, and for 
> me to periodically sort it out for her.

Unless you use properly set-up tags (highly unlikely for those who are 
disorganised enough to litter their Desktop with files in the first 
place), the Desktop Stacks simply group together files of the same 
type, making it somewhat useless. You'd be better off at least making 
your own Desktop folders to store stuff in organised how you want ... 
or even better, put the files away in properly organised locations in 
the first place.

The one person I help out who has an incredibly messy Desktop wouldn't 
know the difference between looking in the 'Photos' stack or the 
'Documents' stack, so they'd still be trawling through all the stacks 
looking for the file they want.




> I look forward to using the "get info" left-side panel in the Finder windows.

I'm not sure you've got that correct. I haven't seen any mention of a 
Finder "get info" panel yet. There is a new info panel on the *right* 
side of the 'Gallery' view, but it only shows the meta data from media 
files (the video format, the photo dimensions, etc.), not the actual 
Finder info. Potentially that could eventually be expanded on to show 
info for other files types.

Some people are all excited about the "new Gallery view" ... except 
it's already been there for many previous versions of macOS under the 
name "Cover Flow", and is rarely-to-never used by most people.

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WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 09:03 +1200
  Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 17:13 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 18:17 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 21:38 -0400
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:09 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:25 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 06:41 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:57 +1200
        Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:20 -0400
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:31 +0000
              Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:21 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:25 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:29 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 22:04 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 14:29 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 00:42 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 01:05 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 01:16 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 18:46 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:22 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-06 08:45 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:11 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 09:22 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 10:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 22:20 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:17 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:34 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 10:10 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 14:57 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 09:32 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 00:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 06:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:49 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:21 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:23 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 01:12 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:25 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 06:37 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:23 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:24 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:41 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:31 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 00:36 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:30 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:15 -0700
          Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 18:40 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 00:49 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:31 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 18:36 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 15:25 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
      Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:26 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:19 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:00 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-05 22:32 +0200
            Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 21:13 +0000
      Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:24 +0000
  Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:30 +1200
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 00:07 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Peter Kozlov <peter.kozlov@blacksea.design> - 2018-06-05 14:33 -0700
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:37 +1200
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:10 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-07 12:12 +0000
    Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 15:59 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 14:00 +1200

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