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Re: Newton and Galilean relativity

From Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean relativity
Date 2018-05-25 07:04 +0200
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>
Guys, use proper quoting, please.

Editing and orientation in long multi quote posts  in an Android
 Usenet client is not fun.

> I don't think it is sloppy language at all to say that two clocks that show different times were running at different rates.

I do think it is sloppy language to say
moving cars have different engine revolution rates, if the real
 meaning their observed rate is different.
-------
  I know your different way, and I do not believe in it.  Two sets
 of Galilean transformation equations show that lengths are not
 contracted, but clocks can run at different rates of time. 
 

And they fails in that.
Observed(not real) length contraction,
Observed(not real) time dilation
and relativity if simultaneity
are INEVITABLE and MATHEMATICAL consequences
of invariant vacuum light speed.

You have to accept all the package.
There can be all 4 of them, or none of them.
-----
So, if clocks show different elapsed times, I say they have
 different rates. 

That is false even without theory of relativity, by classical
 Doppler effect.
( As there is also relativistic Doppler effect, combining the
 classical one and time dilation )

 

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Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

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Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:50 -0700
  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-24 05:18 +0200
    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-23 20:40 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 23:00 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 03:54 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-24 11:52 +0000
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 14:58 +0200
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-24 13:41 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 08:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 19:17 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-24 18:33 +0000
          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 08:17 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 19:22 +0200
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 11:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:20 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 12:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:55 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 14:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:25 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 17:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:04 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:54 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:40 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:44 -0500
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:17 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:40 -0500
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-25 08:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 17:15 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:17 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:59 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 15:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 06:07 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:51 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-25 08:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:41 -0700
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-24 21:19 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-27 22:12 -0700
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 04:24 -0700
    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:58 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 08:48 +0200
        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-24 00:02 -0700
        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 08:10 -0700
  Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 13:58 +0100
    Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 08:31 -0700
      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 17:44 +0100
        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 11:22 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:23 +0100
      Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 19:56 +0200
        Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 12:05 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:29 +0200
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 13:15 -0700
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 11:07 +0100
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 04:47 -0700
          Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 20:04 +0000
            Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 13:51 -0700
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:03 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 14:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 06:17 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-24 21:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-25 01:38 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:27 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:49 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 01:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:19 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:07 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:16 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:36 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:38 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 01:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:30 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-25 01:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:50 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-26 02:46 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 19:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-25 21:04 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 22:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-26 11:20 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 04:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 12:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 14:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-26 21:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 06:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-27 11:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 13:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-27 22:47 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 18:51 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 20:46 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 18:53 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 16:48 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 12:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-28 13:49 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-05-28 21:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 15:01 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-05-28 22:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-28 15:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 17:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-28 18:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 19:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 21:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 15:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 23:51 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:11 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 02:51 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:40 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-30 03:34 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 00:06 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 00:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 08:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 10:32 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 13:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 14:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 16:01 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-31 04:05 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 19:43 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-31 05:34 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 13:11 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:22 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 16:24 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 19:41 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 23:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 07:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 08:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 09:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-31 19:19 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 11:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 13:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 14:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 15:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 18:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 20:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 21:43 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 17:23 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-31 04:03 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 19:43 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-31 05:31 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-27 13:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 18:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-27 19:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 20:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-27 01:00 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 06:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:12 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:39 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 17:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:11 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-24 22:31 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 06:08 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-25 01:09 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:18 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-25 17:45 +0000
              Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:06 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 14:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:28 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 18:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:00 -0500
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-25 08:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:52 +0000
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