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Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments

From	Volney <volney@volney.invalid>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments
Date	2018-05-20 14:16 -0400
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On 5/20/2018 12:51 PM, Ed Lake wrote:
> On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 4:56:34 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
>> On 5/19/2018 5:14 PM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>> On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 3:33:34 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
>>>> On 5/19/2018 12:58 PM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:10:35 PM UTC-5, danco...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Yes.  You misunderstand how a radar gun works.
>>>>>
>>>>> You claim, "the reflected pulses arrive back at the emitter at a higher frequency than they were emitted."
>>>>>
>>>>> There are NO PULSES in radar guns.  They send out a stream of radio photons.
>>>>
>>>> The radar guns send out a continuous radio wave.
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as a "continuous radio wave."  All forms of light, including radio and microwave, are emitted in the form of INDIVIDUAL PHOTONS.
>>
>> Irrelevant. That's like stating that a gallon of water can't be
>> considered a continuous fluid because it is made of individual water
>> molecules. (Do you realize how small a radar photon is and how many are
>> emitted per second by a radar gun?) The difference between a "continuous
>> radio wave" and a zillion photons is unmeasureable.
> 
> That's not the point.  The point is that light is emitted as individual photons, so you cannot argue about a "continuous radio wave."  They don't exist.  And the fact that there may be a zillion photons doesn't mean anything unless you are talking about what tiny FRACTION of those "zillion photons" actually reach a target.  In many situations you send out a zillion photons and you get back just a few.  You have to work with the few that you get back.

Again, do you realize how small radar photons are? Hint: E=hf. Even from 
the return signal from an object, there are still a zillion photons 
involved, and treating it as a continuous wave is still accurate, with 
the difference unmeasureable. Just like I can consider my gallon jug of 
water as a continuous fluid for most purposes without having to worry 
about the fact it really is a large number of water molecules.
> 
>>> I can quote from Ricard Feynman, but I'm running out of time for today.
>>
>> I can tell YOU of a Feynman quote about how a theory that doesn't match
>> reality is wrong, and your beliefs don't match reality.
> 
> That is your opinion.

No, your beliefs don't match reality, they don't agree with experiment. 
Feynman would tell you that your beliefs are wrong. Period.

Here is the quote. "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it 
doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, 
it's wrong."

> 
>>>
>>>> This will be a sine
>>>> wave of an electric/magnetic field. For such a continuous wave, instead
>>>> of "pulses" you specify the time between two consecutive peaks of the
>>>> sine wave. Since the car moves slightly between the arrival of two peaks
>>>> and is slightly closer by the time the second peak reaches the car, the
>>>> distance (wavelength) between it and the previous peak is decreased,
>>>> thus the frequency increases.  Just like a train horn.
>>>>
>>>>> I can't find any source that says what happens if the radar gun is moving and the car is stationary.
>>>>
>>>> That's because you didn't look. Because if you did, you'd find that
>>>> there is no difference.
>>>
>>> So, you can't find anything either and just state your BELIEFS???
>>
>> Not BELIEFS. I worked on a design spec for a car mounted police radar
>> gun system many years ago. You are trying to snow the wrong person.
> 
> It is still just BELIEFS if you cannot provide some source we can discuss.

It's all over the net, for one.

> 
>>>
>>>> A radar gun in a moving police car "clocking"
>>>> the speed of a road sign would display the speed of the police car,
>>>> since the sign is moving at the police car's speed (in the opposite
>>>> direction) as far as the radar gun, which uses itself as a point of
>>>> reference.
>>>>
>>>>> When police use a moving radar gun to measure the speed of a moving car, it is a DIFFERENT kind of gun, since the gun has to know the speed of the gun in order to add it to the speed of the car being chased.
>>>>
>>>> They use a system with two radar guns. One is attached to the police car
>>>> and measures the speed of the target. The other is typically aimed at
>>>> the road ahead of the police car, and measures the speed of the police
>>>> car by actually measuring the "speed" of the road relative to the police
>>>> car.  The gun aimed at traffic will measure the sum (if target is
>>>> approaching) or difference (if target is moving in the same direction)
>>>> of the speeds of the police car and the target. Electronic circuitry
>>>> subtracts the speeds measured by the two radar guns, and that is the
>>>> speed of the target (relative to the road/earth) and displays that as
>>>> the target's speed to the police officer.
>>>
>>> That's not what the sources say.
>>
>> What "sources"?
> 
> https://www.quora.com/How-accurate-is-a-police-radar-from-a-moving-police-vehicle-traveling-in-the-opposite-direction-as-the-speeder

The VERY FIRST sentence in that is: "Radar guns measure the /relative/ 
velocity between the radar gun and the target." (emphasis theirs)  It 
only gets worse for you from there. I can only conclude that you simply 
did not understand that article.

>>
>>>   The sources say the speed of the police car is NOT USED.
>>
>> The police officer is interested in the speed of the target relative to
>> the road/earth. By "the speed of the police car is NOT USED" the speed
>> of the police car is not displayed by the radar system, is not written
>> on any traffic ticket issued etc. The speed displayed by the radar
>> system is the speed of the target relative to the road, period.
>>
>> As I wrote, this is done by one radar system measuring the speed of the
>> target relative to the (moving) police car, the second radar system
>> measures the speed of the road/surroundings relative to the police car,
>> and SUBTRACTS the police car's (actually the measured speeds of the
>> road/surroundings) to produce the displayed speed.
>>
>> Specifically, if the police car is tailing the subject car, matching its
>> speed, the radar aimed at the target will measure a speed of ZERO since
>> it is a relative speed (between police car and target) The second radar
>> system will measure the speed of the police cruiser by measuring the
>> relative speed of the road.  The system SUBTRACTS the two speeds
>> (subtracts since the radar will measure the road as approaching the
>> cruiser) from the other speed (ZERO), which is the same as adding the
>> cruiser's speed to the radar gun's measured speed (ZERO)_ to produce the
>> target's road speed. This is EXACTLY equivalent to the police officer
>> pacing behind the target so that he neither falls behind nor gets
>> closer, looking at his speedometer reading 80, and concluding the target
>> is going 80.
> 
> Then why use radar at all?  In that situation the police officer can use his speed in court.  It would probably be better evidence in court.

The police would typically use BOTH in that case. I've been on the wrong 
end of a radar gun, and the officer will typically testify "Your Honor, 
Mr. XXX drove by me at a high rate of speed which I estimated at 82 
miles per hour. I have this certification from the Police Academy for 
estimating vehicle speeds visually. I then followed the subject and 
paced his vehicle. My calibrated odometer read 80 miles per hour. My XXX 
brand Mobile Radar Speed Unit displayed a speed of 80 miles an hour. I 
stopped the subject and wrote a citation for speeding."

Judge: (thinking to himself, 3 different measures of the speed.) "Guilty."
> 
> The question is really about a radar gun on a moving police car being pointed at a sign next to the road.  If the police car is going 60 mph, what does the radar gun show as the speed of the sign?
> 
>>
>>>   The comparison is made between the signals that bounce back from the ground and the signals that bounce back from the speeding car.
>>
>> Yes, the two radar systems measure two different relative speeds and
>> SUBTRACT them to cancel out the unnecessary speed of the cruiser.
> 
> What are the speeds?  ground = zero and car = 90 mph, or ground = 100 and car = minus 10 mph?

The second, RELATIVE speeds. The gun calculates the target road speed.
> 
>>>
>>> That totally contradicts your BELIEFS.
>>
>> A police radar system design spec is not a "BELIEF". It is based on the
>> actual science used.
> 
> Yes, but what is the science?  That is what we are arguing about.

Relative motion. Known since Galileo. Perhaps you have heard of him.
> 
>>
>>>   It says that if you are in a police car and you point your radar gun at a tree, the tree will register at ZERO velocity.
>>
>> A proper mobile radar system (measuring two speeds simultaneously) WILL
>> display a 0 speed for the tree. HOWEVER, a hand held radar unit that was
>> not intended for mobile use WILL display the speed of the police car as
>> the "speed" of the tree. Before you counter that that's absurd, THAT'S
>> HOW RELATIVE MOTION WORKS! This has been known since Galileo!
> 
> Yes, but Einstein said Galileo was wrong.  You are saying the light from the radar gun travels at c+v where v is the speed of the cop car, and it returns at c so that c+v-c equals the speed of the cop car.  Light cannot travel at c+v.

I NEVER claimed any signal moved at c+v!
> 
>>
>> Someone else suggested that you take a college course in physics. I
>> agree since you obviously don't understand relative motion at all.
> 
> The discussion is not about relative motion.  It is about the speed of light and how it cannot be added to the speed of the emitter.

This subset (your recent replies to me and mine) are about relative 
motion, which you do not understand. Yes the overall thread is about 
speed of light, but relative motion and the Doppler Effect works for 
light, sound (think sonar), even carrier pigeons released periodically 
and their arrival rate.

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                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-17 13:06 -0400
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                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-17 18:02 -0400
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                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-05-27 09:05 -0700
                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-27 09:14 -0700
                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-05-27 09:26 -0700
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                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-05-27 23:01 +0200
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                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-05-27 12:31 -0700
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                Re: Simplifying Einstein's Thought Experiments rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 19:13 -0700
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