Re: C++ features for C

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: C++ features for C
Date	2018-05-13 21:18 +0200
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On 13/05/18 18:14, bartc wrote:
> On 13/05/2018 15:57, David Brown wrote:
>> On 12/05/18 18:45, bartc wrote:
> 
>>> all with different attributes.
>>
>> Different tools for different purposes.
> 
> None of which do exactly the job of simply attaching a scoped name to a 
> literal value, and nothing else.

So what?  That is not a feature I see any value in.  For everything you 
would want to use /your/ constants for, C and C++ have a way to do it 
(with C++ making many of them more convenient).  The only way to pretend 
that C cannot make the kind of constants you want is to invent 
artificial restrictions.

> 
> enum is the closest if the type involved is an int, but even that is 
> intended for a different purpose.
> 
>> So as far as I can see, you have everything you need in C and C++ 
>> constants. 
> 
> As far as I can see, I have to choose some combination of static, 
> register, const, enum or #define. I can choose to assign a value or not. 

const, enum and #define do different things - though for some purposes, 
you have a choice of which one to use.  "static" is a type qualifier 
that appears to give you a lot of trouble.  It is unfortunate that C 
(and C++) use it in a number of circumstances for somewhat different 
concepts, but I am sure you could learn what it means if you tried.

You don't get to choose to assign a value or not - a constant always has 
a single definition with a single value.  But you can (for "const") make 
declarations that are not a definition - this is a vital feature that 
seems to have escaped your understanding.

> Some choices might allow &, some don't. Some may involve allocating 
> storage, others not, or it might depend on whether & is used. It may or 
> may not be exported.

It turns out that people like variety.  Maybe your programs are small 
enough, or simple enough that you don't need many features in a 
language.  Maybe you are so used to a limited and restricted language 
that you make do with it, and it is good enough for you.  Other people 
use real programming languages, and need a variety of tools and features.

The various types of constants in C and C++ are not that hard to learn 
or use.  The only advantage of trying to invent a "super constant" that 
does "everything" is for someone writing a compiler.  Personally, I 
would rather have the different constant methods that do what I need and 
want, than to have a single method that does not do what I need.

> 
> And if I use 'const double pi=3.1416;" in a shared header, then I am 
> likely to end up with multiple definitions of 'pi'.

What is it that people keep saying to you?  "Doctor, it hurts when I do 
this..."

In C++, you can write "const double pi = 3.1416;" in a header and have 
it do what you want.  In C, you cannot.  It does not mean what you think 
it means.  If you had learned how C linking, declarations and 
definitions work, and how multiple translation units work - instead of 
obsessing about how much you can put in /one/ file and avoid any build 
processes - you would know this.

> 
> This must be the famous so-called flexibility of C in action.
> 
> Seriously, can no one else see what a hopeless mess all this is?
> 

I can't answer for everyone else, but it is easy to see why /you/ are in 
a hopeless mess whereas C and C++ programmers do fine.  (That does not 
mean we don't see room for improvement - for starters, I think most 
people familiar with C and C++ would like C to inherit C++'s const 
features.)

>> "enum" is mainly for defining groups of related constants - a feature 
>> that appears to be missing from your language.
> 
> I have enums, but normally use the more sophisticated table-building 
> features.

enums in C are not about tables - they are about types and identifiers.

> 
> But when needing a stand-alone named constant, then my 'const' feature 
> does that job perfectly without any ifs and buts of the assortment of 
> features used in C.
> 
> It is simple (an attribute that few appreciate in this group).

Most constants in C are simple too.  But for some uses, simple doesn't 
cut it.

> 
>> The main complaints I have with constants in C is the same as most 
>> people's - and that could be fixed by copying the "const" features of 
>> C++.
> 
> I've just spent 30 minutes adding 'constant' to my new C compiler. But 
> it's clear it will take much longer to do properly. Still, it 
> illustrates how it works, but with these limitations:
> 

It is amazing what you can do when you don't have to think further than 
your own navel.

Thread

C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 10:13 -0700
  Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-11 10:47 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 11:06 -0700
      Re: C++ features for C Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-05-11 21:52 +0200
        Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:51 -0700
      Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-11 21:35 +0100
      Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 23:39 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-11 19:20 +0100
      Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-11 12:21 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-05-12 11:09 -0400
      Re: C++ features for C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-05-18 20:48 -0700
        Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-19 12:59 -0700
          Re: C++ features for C Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-05-22 06:50 +0000
            Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-22 07:39 -0700
              Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 09:54 -0700
        Re: C++ features for C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-05-19 16:18 -0400
          Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-19 13:54 -0700
            Re: C++ features for C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-05-19 18:05 -0400
          Re: C++ features for C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-06-14 04:27 -0700
            Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-06-14 07:35 -0700
            Re: C++ features for C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-06-15 10:25 -0400
              Re: C++ features for C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-06-17 12:59 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-06-17 23:44 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-12 12:48 -0700
      Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-12 13:07 -0700
        Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-12 13:59 -0700
  Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-11 18:50 +0100
    Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 11:22 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 02:45 -0700
  Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 11:28 -0700
  Re: C++ features for C Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-05-11 21:49 +0200
    Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:44 -0700
    Terse static_assert (was Re: C++ features for C) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-05-12 05:51 +0000
      Re: Terse static_assert (was Re: C++ features for C) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-05-18 22:20 -0700
        Re: Terse static_assert (was Re: C++ features for C) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-05-22 05:24 +0000
          Re: Terse static_assert (was Re: C++ features for C) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 00:47 -0700
          Re: Terse static_assert (was Re: C++ features for C) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-06-14 03:22 -0700
  Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-12 07:59 +1200
    Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 13:28 -0700
      Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-12 10:13 +1200
      Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-11 15:36 -0700
      Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-11 15:38 -0700
        Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:41 -0700
          Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 11:53 +0100
            Re: C++ features for C Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-05-12 13:30 +0200
              Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 13:48 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-12 12:17 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-05-13 09:44 +0200
            Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-12 14:46 +0100
              Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 17:23 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-12 19:46 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 21:05 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-13 02:16 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 12:06 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-13 14:20 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 16:19 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 21:00 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 20:30 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 09:49 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 11:56 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 13:15 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 09:28 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 17:44 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 10:13 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-14 17:46 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-14 17:13 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 11:23 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 14:06 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-13 12:40 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 09:11 +0200
            Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-12 18:03 +0200
              Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 17:45 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-05-12 18:00 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 20:31 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 16:57 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 17:14 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-13 11:38 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 19:52 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 21:18 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 12:35 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 21:22 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 00:49 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 01:05 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 10:14 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 11:43 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 12:05 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-14 09:19 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 17:29 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 13:24 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 14:07 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 16:19 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 07:49 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 08:07 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-13 13:20 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 10:47 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-14 10:35 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-15 09:10 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 08:53 -0700
            Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-13 08:19 +1200
              Re: C++ features for C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-13 17:44 +0000
            Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-12 13:33 -0700
            Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 22:56 +0100
              Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-13 15:18 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 23:41 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 12:05 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 04:30 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 08:31 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 08:39 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 17:21 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 09:33 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 17:55 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 11:26 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-14 20:24 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 13:07 -0700
              Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-13 15:28 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 23:43 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 00:50 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 12:37 +0200
          Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-13 08:32 +1200
            Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-12 22:48 +0100
              Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-13 10:08 +1200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 00:00 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 00:35 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-13 12:24 +1200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 01:37 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:30 +1200
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 17:57 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 17:31 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 21:34 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-13 11:11 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 19:41 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 21:42 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-13 13:09 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 12:41 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-14 14:25 +0100
              Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-12 15:36 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 12:05 -0700
              Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-12 15:53 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 00:14 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-12 18:05 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 21:59 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-13 13:23 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-13 22:05 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 12:55 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-14 12:57 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-14 10:57 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-15 09:14 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-13 14:10 -0700
              Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-13 17:31 +0200
            Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 10:19 -0700
              Re: C++ features for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-15 08:06 +1200
                Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 13:20 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-14 13:46 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 14:12 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-14 14:27 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-14 15:21 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 15:24 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-15 09:26 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 11:28 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-15 13:18 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-15 12:23 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 13:27 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-05-15 16:19 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 08:29 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 17:18 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 10:23 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 19:23 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 11:59 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 20:20 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 12:56 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 21:01 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 13:15 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 22:36 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 14:59 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 23:54 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 16:18 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-16 00:40 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 17:25 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-16 01:32 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-16 14:32 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 07:41 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 21:13 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-16 07:51 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-16 18:09 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-16 13:22 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-16 09:15 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 00:39 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-16 08:31 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-17 15:00 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-17 08:07 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 05:04 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-17 09:07 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-17 10:33 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-17 18:04 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-17 13:15 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-17 14:07 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-17 15:40 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-17 16:28 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-18 09:17 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-18 10:36 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-18 11:41 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 14:16 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-05-18 19:54 -0400
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-17 20:39 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-17 12:37 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-05-17 19:54 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-17 13:39 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-17 22:48 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-17 22:47 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-17 14:13 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-18 10:10 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-18 17:55 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:59 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-18 10:17 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-15 15:56 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-15 15:59 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-15 15:15 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 15:58 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 16:48 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-05-15 20:37 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-15 13:46 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 14:43 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 09:17 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-15 18:20 +0100
                Re: C++ features for C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-05-15 17:38 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 11:13 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 06:40 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 09:12 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 03:33 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-05-15 09:09 -0700
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-15 23:45 +0200
                Re: C++ features for C Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-05-17 18:49 +0000
                Re: C++ features for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-05-17 22:49 +0200
  Re: C++ features for C Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 15:46 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-05-11 16:13 -0700
  Re: C++ features for C Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:52 -0700
    Re: C++ features for C Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:56 -0700

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