Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system

From	"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate
Subject	Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system
Date	2018-05-08 21:05 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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"kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:pcrtqh$6ho$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 5/8/2018 12:49 AM, Scout wrote:
>> "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:pcmk83$1t2r$5@gioia.aioe.org...
>>> I offset my carbon use in various ways and Nadegda's on solar. Try 
>>> again.
>>
>> Solar?
>>
>> You mean the means that results in massive amounts of CO2 from the coal 
>> being burned to produce the electricity needed to make the panel?
>
> Any energy can be used to make the panel, including wind and more solar, 
> k0Ok.

Sure, but in China, where the cells are manufactured they primarily use C O 
A L...and dirty coal at that.

Further it's kind of pointless to use solar to produce more solar when then 
panels are most likely never going to produce as much energy as used to 
create them.

Further we would also need to consider the added heat that solar would cause 
since the panels are more absorptive than reflective and thus would trap 
more solar heat within the atmosphere thus compounding any global warming.

>> That over it's average life span it almost certainly won't produce as 
>> much useable and used real world electricity as was consumed to produced 
>> it in the first place?
>
> Wrong. Modern solar panels have an EROI in the teens.

In theory, in practice, the average return is less than the sum of the 
energy investment to create the panel.

Nor does this eliminate the fact that the pollution caused by production is 
all concentrated at the time of production thus compounding the effect of 
the pollution produced rather than the more distributed pollution produced 
by conventional methods.

>hich means they return over ten times the energy that was consumed to 
>produce them in the first place.

Not really, given that the average real world observed life is 17 
years...which puts it right around your best case result for energy 
neutrality.

>> That even if it does manage to reach a net positive energy that won't 
>> begin to offset the fact that all the pollution 'saved' over that life 
>> span of the panel would instead be condensed and released in a matter of 
>> days instead of decades?
>
> A concentrated problem is easier to deal with. Electric cars replace 
> thousands of tiny tailpipes with one big smokestack, and CCS can be used 
> there much more easily, or that smokestack replaced with a solar panel.

Yes, but then you have a lot more conversion loses in electric cars, as well 
as the pollution from all the rare earth mining necessary to get the 
elements used in the motors and batteries for such cars.

> A solid lump of lead can be sealed in wax or something and buried 
> somewhere geologically stable, or even just reused, whereas the same mass 
> as lead dust dispersed over a huge area is a huge problem. And so forth.

Which is exactly what happens with solar cell production which involves a 
lot of heavy metals and toxic chemicals. They can't be removed totally from 
the discharge so they are dispersed over a vast area as air pollution, water 
pollution and soil pollution. Further such chemicals remain for centuries or 
longer and don't break down quickly and easily like common green house gases 
would and do.

>
>> Tell you what, if you REALLY want to make a difference...... INSULATION.
>
> How do you know she isn't doing that too?

She wouldn't be wasting money on dirty solar while claiming to be 'saving 
the planet'.

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Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 05:10 -0400
  Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-02 08:37 -0400
    Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 09:33 -0400
    Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2018-05-11 06:42 -0400
      Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 11:26 -0400
  Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-02 09:19 -0400
  Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 09:01 -0500
    Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 05:34 -0400
      Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 09:41 -0500
        Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 11:55 -0400
        Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 23:33 +0000
          Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:39 -0500
            Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:50 +0000
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 21:59 -0400
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 22:38 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:24 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-04 12:40 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 22:55 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-04 18:28 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 16:33 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-05 06:52 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-05 12:28 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-05 16:23 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-06 06:07 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-06 09:36 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-06 11:29 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-06 12:55 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:14 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 00:37 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 06:03 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 01:09 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 06:13 -0400
                Comrade Jim Jones preyed on people like "kensi". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-08 07:53 -0700
                Re: Comrade Jim Jones preyed on people like "kensi". kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:51 -0400
                Reading "Sci.Physics", as I have for 12+ years. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-08 10:29 -0700
                Re: Comrade Jim Jones preyed on people like "kensi". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 15:28 -0400
                Re: Comrade Jim Jones preyed on people like "kensi". Bricked <bricked@barkingspiders.com> - 2018-05-08 20:56 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 20:50 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:11 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 09:34 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-06 12:25 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:17 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-06 19:49 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 16:52 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 00:25 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 06:05 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 11:05 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-07 10:43 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-07 10:32 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 11:46 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 11:06 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-07 19:30 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 15:19 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-07 20:20 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 16:33 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:35 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 01:21 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 20:47 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 01:50 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 00:06 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:12 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 09:38 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:07 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 13:53 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:00 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:17 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 21:25 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 09:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 08:36 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-10 18:20 +0100
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 12:38 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:20 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 20:46 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-10 13:41 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-05-10 18:45 +0100
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 14:41 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 22:42 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 16:33 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-11 02:11 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 20:24 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 08:06 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-10 20:32 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 17:35 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 23:12 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 08:01 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 10:19 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 11:04 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 20:27 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-11 02:15 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:19 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 14:43 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-14 18:35 +0100
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 14:54 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 22:42 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 16:34 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-11 02:20 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 01:10 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 06:14 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-08 08:41 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:41 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 15:26 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 20:50 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:13 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-09 10:02 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 09:40 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 13:33 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:18 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:20 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 21:32 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 19:35 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 09:10 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 08:38 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-09 20:09 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 00:52 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 06:15 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 20:51 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:22 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 09:42 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 13:38 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:19 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 08:43 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 10:49 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 10:23 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:22 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 16:33 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 22:44 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 20:28 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 23:17 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-09 15:15 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:31 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:36 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:36 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 20:29 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 15:00 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-04 17:51 -0600
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-05 02:46 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:39 -0700
          Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 12:24 -0700
            Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 22:56 +0000
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-05 02:58 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-05 05:20 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-05 12:35 -0400
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 15:11 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-05 20:23 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 00:28 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 06:16 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-06 06:09 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-06 09:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 00:39 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 06:07 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 11:07 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-07 19:31 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 15:26 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 00:49 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 06:23 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-08 08:46 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-08 09:08 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 14:59 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 21:09 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 20:05 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-08 20:14 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 22:12 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 19:17 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-09 00:40 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 21:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:48 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 15:21 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 20:04 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 17:33 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 23:23 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Bricked <bricked@barkingspiders.com> - 2018-05-08 19:19 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 21:31 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:20 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:26 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 21:34 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-09 22:44 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:26 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 16:37 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 22:45 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 19:24 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 23:19 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 22:35 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 20:03 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 17:29 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 14:32 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-08 20:19 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-09 11:19 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-11 08:24 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 21:05 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:39 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 09:47 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:10 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 13:44 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:22 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:27 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-09 14:42 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 13:04 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-09 15:47 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-09 15:20 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-09 19:34 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-09 18:28 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 07:59 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 11:30 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-11 19:31 +0000
                Not everyone who fails to spam you with esoteric math is stupid. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-12 10:11 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-09 20:16 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 09:13 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 08:50 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 10:53 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 10:26 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:27 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-10 16:34 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-10 22:50 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 07:58 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-11 11:27 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-11 19:31 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 12:47 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-12 06:04 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-05-12 08:03 -0400
    Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-05-03 10:51 -0400
      Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 11:57 -0400
      Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 11:44 -0500
        Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-05-03 14:58 -0400
          Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-03 23:35 +0000
            Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:44 -0500
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:47 -0400
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 01:52 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 22:44 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:26 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 00:46 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 06:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 11:20 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-07 15:18 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-07 19:33 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 15:36 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 01:18 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-11 02:19 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 13:53 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 13:56 -0700
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-07 20:54 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-08 01:20 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-08 08:17 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-08 01:12 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 06:23 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:08 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-04 05:28 -0400
            Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:28 -0700
              Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-04 22:55 +0000
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 00:42 -0500
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 06:10 -0400
                Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-07 11:21 -0500
      Re: Climate change dials down Atlantic Ocean heating system Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 19:28 -0700

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