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Re: Check how date is entered

From dpb <none@none.net>
Newsgroups microsoft.public.excel.programming
Subject Re: Check how date is entered
Date 2018-05-08 14:09 -0500
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On 5/8/2018 1:34 PM, GS wrote:
> Ok, how MatLab handles this isn't relevant; how Excel handles it is all 
> that matters here!

Trudat; I just included it as thought you found the comparisons of some 
personal interest if nothing else...it is how I avoid the grief 
personally by essentially not using spreadsheets.  :)

> If the target cells are pre-formatted (ergo using a template) to receive 
> their expected data then both columns in your example will display 
> correctly when importing the text. AFAIC, anyone arbitrarily 'dumping' 
> data into a default blank worksheet that's not pre-designed to receive 
> it needs schooling on how to use Excel! (But then, what do I know?)

Ah!  OK, that would answer the followup I posed (I think)...but in my 
experience, the number of people tasked with performing analyses that 
have ever had any specific Excel training that would lend them to 
understanding this point is miniscule at best and, at least ime at the 
utilities and other places I've consulted could best be approximated as 
"none".  I must admit I'm not certain how one goes about doing that; I 
tried to "preformat" the cells and Excel wouldn't let me do anything to 
them until there was something else in the cell already...this is past 
my level of competence with Excel; "dumping data into a blank sheet" is 
all I've ever known to do myself! :)

> Since most other spreadsheets (at least those that claim to read/write 
> Excel formats) are compatible by attrition of competiveness with Excel, 
> also handle NumberFormats same as Excel does.
> 
> Numeric date formats are no longer viable because of OS/Local system 
> formats differing as per. People need to stop using them and use textual 
> format where the month is at least "mmm", regardless of which element it 
> occupies. The various spreadsheets will interpret correctly based on 
> DateSerial.

That's a noble objective; in the real world I've lived in it just "ain't 
agonna' happen!" and, much like the Fortran world from whence my 
background arises, there's just too much legacy code and applications 
out there that replacing them all is cost prohibitive and also not 
happening.

Anyways, if/when you see and care to address the recent follow up I 
think we have clearly reached the end of the fruitfulness of the 
discussion...altho I, too, have learned something (and may learn 
something more) re: "how Excel works" that will have to keep in mind 
going forward.

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Check how date is entered jan120253@gmail.com - 2018-05-04 00:31 -0700
  Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-04 07:46 -0500
    Re: Check how date is entered "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2018-05-04 15:55 +0000
      Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-04 12:43 -0500
        Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-04 17:37 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-05 04:21 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-05 10:33 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-05 11:32 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-05 21:19 -0400
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-06 07:46 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-06 09:37 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-06 20:37 -0400
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-06 19:53 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-06 21:03 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-07 03:14 -0400
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-07 07:45 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-07 13:06 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered malone <malone@nospam.net.nz> - 2018-05-08 08:19 +1200
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-07 15:35 -0500
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                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-08 14:09 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-08 17:06 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-08 15:02 -0400
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-08 14:59 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-08 17:04 -0400
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-08 18:53 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-08 21:12 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-08 23:51 -0400
                Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-09 07:20 -0500
                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-09 11:32 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-09 15:03 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-07 17:40 -0400
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                Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-08 00:02 -0400
  Re: Check how date is entered jan120253@gmail.com - 2018-05-07 01:45 -0700
    Re: Check how date is entered jan120253@gmail.com - 2018-05-07 01:52 -0700
      Re: Check how date is entered dpb <none@none.net> - 2018-05-07 08:16 -0500
        Re: Check how date is entered GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2018-05-07 13:10 -0400
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