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Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims?

From Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims?
Date 2018-05-04 10:18 -0600
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On 2018-05-04 16:03:09 +0000, Snit said:

> On 5/4/18 8:51 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 9:37:34 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>> On 5/4/18 8:30 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> I don’t want either pushing their religion. In the US a higher percentage
>>>>> of Christians push there special entitlements for heterosexual view.
>>>> 
>>>> You don't get a choice on whether or not a group pushes their religiion..
>>> 
>>> Well, I get to vote
>> 
>> Of course, which is *why* I immediately followed it with:
>> 
>> "All you get is a say is on how they do it from a legal perspective"
>> 
>>> but, sure, some will always push. Right now
>>> conservative Christians are pushing against equal rights in not just
>>> higher numbers but higher percentages than are Muslims, at least in the
>>> area of marriage.
>>> 
>>>> All you get is a say is on how they do it from a legal perspective; for
>>>> the rest it's out of your control.
>>> 
>>> Water is wet.
>> 
>> I don't understand why you've broken the text up here like you
>> have, but If you're trying to say your vote would be worthless
>> against large groups, I'd tend to agree. Or maybe you were just
>> commenting solely on "the rest it's out of your control"? In any
>> event, the remaining questions include:
>> 
>> Do you believe you'd like it more or less if the majority of the
>> population were Muslim?  And why do you believe it
>> (whatever your answer is)?
>> 
> Depends on the people involved. With the poll I showed it appears that, 
> currently, Christians are pushing more (in higher percentages) than are 
> Muslims. BUT that is breaking down Christians by group and NOT Muslims. 
> If you look at many of their Christian groups they are also fairly open 
> to equal rights (in this area).
> 
> Overall, worldwide, I believe Muslims tend to be more conservative 
> (pushing against equal rights and for their own special entitlements). 
> I would not want to see that growing in the US... from ANY group.

We're not going to get a choice there, Muslims birth rates will decide 
the issue. By the time the percentage becomes large enough for it to 
become any kind of major problem you'll probably be dead anyway. The 
question is really geared more towards how your offspring are affected 
and how you feel about that, given Muslims are, as you say, "more 
conservative".

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Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:56 -0700
  Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:07 +0000
    Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:10 -0700
      Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:33 +0000
        Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 05:39 +0000
    Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:12 -0400
      Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-04 09:00 -0500
        Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 10:11 -0400
        Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 07:19 -0700
          Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:30 +0000
            Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 08:43 -0600
              Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:54 +0000
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 10:00 -0700
      Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
    Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:19 -0400
      Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
        Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 08:45 -0600
          Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:54 +0000
            Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 09:20 -0600
              Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 15:27 +0000
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 09:30 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 08:37 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 08:51 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:03 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 10:18 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:32 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 16:40 +0000
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 10:41 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 10:01 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 11:05 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 12:36 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:08 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:13 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 14:40 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 16:50 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 18:53 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:21 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:37 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:19 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 11:31 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 12:03 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 12:58 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:15 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:19 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:25 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:42 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:56 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 15:40 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 17:27 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:22 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 14:29 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:38 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 14:42 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:54 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 04:33 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 02:46 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 14:30 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 15:20 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 16:31 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 10:06 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 11:16 -0600
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 12:34 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 10:48 -0700
                Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 17:41 -0400

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