Re: AIN IT GREAT

From	Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup>
Newsgroups	alt.checkmate, alt.atheism, sci.physics
Subject	Re: AIN IT GREAT
Date	2018-04-16 09:51 -0400
Organization	Galerkin's Gherkins
Message-ID	<pb29pr$1pub$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
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On 4/16/2018 9:28 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 4/16/2018 7:19 AM, Dinsdale wrote:
>> On 4/16/2018 2:21 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 4/16/2018 12:24 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 4/15/2018 11:26 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>> On 4/14/2018 6:24 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>> This being the case, it would indicate that the radio waves
>>>>>> suffer some sort of energy loss and would end up being radio
>>>>>> wave red-shifted and thus the next crystal receiver would
>>>>>> *see* them at a less energetic or lower frequency. But, this
>>>>>> seems not to be the case. So, just what the fuck's going on
>>>>>> and doesn't this make a mockery out of the second law of
>>>>>> thermodynamics?
>>>>>
>>>>> The signal will be attenuated by *any* receiving antenna, but it's the
>>>>> amplitude that will go down, not the frequency. If you could see radio
>>>>> like you see light, the transmitter would look like a bright light-bulb
>>>>> filament, but colored strongly rather than white, and receiving
>>>>> antennas would look dark,
>>>>
>>>> no.  you're transmitter is "white" over broad radio frequency, antennas
>>>> are tuned to small bands of frequency, so they will still look white to
>>>> ones radio eyes over the broad radio frequency.
>>>>
>>>>> but maybe a bit reflective as well. A forest of enough
>>>>> of them in front of you might block out the view,
>>>>
>>>> Wrong.  google "phase cancellation in back lobe of antenna(s)"
>>>>
>>>>> while fewer will just
>>>>> dim it,
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, entirely.
>>>>
>>>>> like the shade and dappled light on a forest floor.
>>>>
>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> google "multipath"
>>>>
>>>>> Other materials and objects would look from translucent grey to
>>>>> black or
>>>>> even pale depending on how much they tended to absorb, reflect, or
>>>>> transmit that wavelength.
>>>>
>>>> wrong,
>>>> wavelength is too long for any of that unless your at 10 Ghz,
>>>> google "multipath"
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You would also be able to tell AM transmitters from FM ones at a
>>>>> glance.
>>>>> AM ones would be flickering,
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, AM would be constant as they send out the LO constant, and
>>>> sidebands are down 50%, they do not flicker.
>>>>
>>>> while FM ones would look steady but
>>>>> shifting minutely in color.
>>>>
>>>> wrong,
>>>> scale, what is deviation of FM, and average modulation frequency ? your
>>>> radio eyes cant see that.  A spectrum analyzer can, but not full scale
>>>> of the radio band.
>>>>
>>>> And every station in your area would be a
>>>>> filament of a different color.
>>>>
>>>> wrong, your eyes could not seperate out 10^9 colors
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (This is a bit of a simplification, as it ignores diffraction,
>>>>> interference patterns, and polarization. The first two, while almost
>>>>> unimportant with visible light, are significant with radio waves,
>>>>> because the wavelengths are comparable to the sizes of everyday objects
>>>>> such as trash cans, windows, human beings, and whatever sort of thingy
>>>>> you are. Polarization means some radio waves might be blocked by a
>>>>> fence
>>>>> with closely spaced vertical metal bars but only somewhat dimmed by one
>>>>> with horizontal bars, or vice versa, or similar consequences. When
>>>>> dealing with visible light, these three phenomena are much more
>>>>> infrequently encountered, but the bright colors on butterfly wings come
>>>>> from diffraction, the glittery speckly effect at the fringe of a laser
>>>>> beam dot is an interference pattern, and some sunglasses dim direct
>>>>> sunlight a lot more than they dim the reflected light from objects by
>>>>> exploiting the former's polarization.)
>>>>>
>>>> simplification excuse not accepted.
>>>>
>>> Sergio totally destroys "Dr. kensi's" PBS liberal science fantasy with
>>> actual engineering and science.
>>>
>>> This is primary evidence as to why one should NEVER learn your science
>>> from libs at PBS (or from ANY libs for that matter).
>>
>> You and your sidekick appear to be rather stupid.
>>
> (kensi pupa's simplification demonstrates no knowledge of radio wave or
> radio wave probagation(s), and incorrectly applies optical effects, it
> is a whole different critter- if you have any specific questions please
> bring them up, no problem. kensi pupa is still learning, it is ok)

Probagation(s)?  Don't you mean prorogation(s), Mr. Pooper guy, whom 
aren't lerning much of anything due to stupid?

-- 
Dinsdale

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AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-05 16:57 -0700
  Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-05 22:12 -0700
    Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 09:45 -0700
      Re: AIN IT GREAT turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-04-06 20:45 -0400
    Re: AIN IT GREAT turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-04-07 13:48 -0400
      Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 10:52 -0700
      Re: AIN IT GREAT snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-04-07 19:26 +0100
    Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-08 11:54 -0400
      Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-09 12:44 -0400
        Do you like it when she honks " Hee... Haw.. " ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-09 10:41 -0700
          Re: Do you like it when she honks " Hee... Haw.. " ? ! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-09 17:26 -0400
        Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:44 -0700
          Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:47 -0700
        Re: AIN IT GREAT "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@bigass-babes.com> - 2018-04-09 19:38 -0700
          Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 19:40 -0700
          Re: AIN IT GREAT turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-04-10 05:42 -0400
            Re: AIN IT GREAT g8dgc <g8dgc@noneya.none> - 2018-04-10 12:33 -0400
              Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 09:35 -0700
        Re: AIN IT GREAT Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-12 05:14 +0000
          Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-12 05:58 -0600
          Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-12 16:46 -0400
            — AIN IT GREAT dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 06:54 +1000
            Re: AIN IT GREAT snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-04-12 22:57 +0100
              Re: AIN IT GREAT pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-04-12 17:01 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-12 16:49 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-12 23:31 +0000
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 11:11 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-14 12:21 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-14 11:05 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 20:28 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-14 18:39 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 17:57 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-14 19:59 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-15 12:26 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-15 10:31 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-15 13:10 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-15 11:15 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-15 18:22 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-15 23:07 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-15 18:17 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-04-15 13:17 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-15 18:26 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 22:58 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-15 23:24 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-16 02:21 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-04-16 08:19 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-16 08:28 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-04-16 09:51 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-16 09:50 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-16 10:12 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-16 09:51 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-16 12:57 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-13 12:04 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-13 10:06 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-13 18:30 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-13 16:49 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 15:58 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-04-13 19:10 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 11:11 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-14 09:23 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Bill (not Jillians) DOW #3" <noemail@none.not> - 2018-04-14 11:38 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 21:10 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:03 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-14 11:04 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 21:11 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 06:45 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 09:56 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 13:36 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 13:24 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 11:11 -0400
                — AIN IT GREAT dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 01:27 +1000
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 21:13 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-15 13:02 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 13:36 -0500
                — AIN IT GREAT dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 06:30 +1000
              — AIN IT GREAT dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 08:14 +1000
              Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-12 20:29 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 07:20 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-13 18:30 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 15:55 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 15:57 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-13 18:31 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 18:39 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <goldarachel@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 18:44 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <rachbl71@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:18 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <rachbl71@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:29 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <rachbl71@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:35 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <rachbl71@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:41 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <rachbl71@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:54 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Meteorite Debris <epicurus@aapt.nety.at> - 2018-04-14 08:53 +0930
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 16:26 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-14 12:28 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-14 11:05 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-13 18:28 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 22:01 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 06:44 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-15 12:56 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-15 20:13 +0000
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 13:20 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-15 14:43 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 13:49 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-15 14:56 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 14:10 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-15 15:30 -0600
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 14:50 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-04-15 23:44 +0100
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-15 23:01 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-04-16 20:37 +0100
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-16 21:13 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Scatboi g8dgc <g8dgc@noneya.none> - 2018-04-16 10:30 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sn!pe <snipeco.2@çmail.com> - 2018-04-17 19:04 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Gospel Theo <theophilus.theodore.liams@nomail.here> - 2018-04-15 20:29 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-16 10:12 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-16 11:33 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-17 19:04 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-18 01:57 +0000
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 19:00 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 21:20 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-19 11:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 13:22 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-20 12:13 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 12:43 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-20 15:41 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:15 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 13:44 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-13 18:27 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <goldarachel@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 18:43 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <goldarachel@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:16 -0700
              Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-13 12:04 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT rachel <goldarachel@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 09:25 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 11:11 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 21:07 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-15 12:58 -0400
            Re: AIN IT GREAT Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-12 23:29 +0000
            Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 04:15 -0500
              Re: AIN IT GREAT dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:22 +1000
              Re: AIN IT GREAT Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-04-13 20:43 +0000
              Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-13 18:30 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 15:36 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 04:45 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-04-15 03:44 +0000
                Re: AIN IT GREAT Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 22:02 -0700
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 06:44 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-16 10:12 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 04:27 -0500
                Re: AIN IT GREAT kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-14 12:30 -0400
                Re: AIN IT GREAT "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-04-14 18:24 -0400
  Re: AIN IT GREAT Corwin Esterness <woolcross@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 11:15 -0700
    Re: AIN IT GREAT % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 11:21 -0700

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