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Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God

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On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 21:17:22 -0700, Cloud Hobbit wrote:

> On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-7, MarkA wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:04:05 -0700, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>> 
>> > Just for the hell of it, i decided to search for "best evidence of
>> > God."
>> > 
>> > I checked out the first few websites, one of which was Rational wiki
>> > and they all had the same stuff.  How the fact that existence exists
>> > is evidence of God.
>> > The whole thing about the eye being so complex.  hat we have a
>> > conscience.  That the universe is life friendly.  This one threw me
>> > because on earth alone there are so many things that will kill
>> > without hesitation. Snakes, bees, volcanoes, earthquakes, tidal
>> > waves, all kinds of wild animals, other assorted insects, and I'm
>> > sure there are many, many more that I haven't thought of. Once you
>> > leave the relative comfort of earth, the rest of the universe does
>> > not seem that friendly. No air, no gravity, no heat, no food, no
>> > other known life.  This to me does not say friendly to life.  Jesus
>> > Christ is supposed to be evidence of God and I don't get that one
>> > either.
>> > 
>> > How does Jesus existence give evidence for God?  None of the people
>> > who were supposed to have been his disciples bothered to write about
>> > him until decades after his death.  You can not count the 4 gospels
>> > as evidence by four different sources.  As to the life and death of
>> > Jesus, taking the existence of a splinter group in an obscure Middle
>> > Eastern tribe as fact has nothing provable to do with God.
>> > 
>> > They also cite the Bible as evidence for God and really, this is the
>> > poorest example of all.  Theists want us to treat it as a history
>> > book but it can't be updated.  Somehow the fact that it is the best
>> > selling book in the world is supposed to be evidence, by that
>> > reasoning the second best selling book in the world is evidence that
>> > capitalism is the only logical economic system and that the world
>> > would be lost if the producers went on strike, that's because the
>> > second best selling book in the world (and has been for some time)is
>> > ATLAS SHRUGGED.  Go figure.
>> 
>> If you think about it, there really CANNOT BE evidence of God.
> 
> I disagree.  The law of identity says a thing is itself and that means
> it has a specific nature.  If God exists he/she/it has one too and we
> should be able to know it.

You think you have the power to distinguish advanced technology from 
magic?  Yet you quote A.C.Clarke on the subject, below.  Which is it?  
What do you think the "specific nature" of a god would look like, such 
that you could identify it?

> 
> The biggest problem I see is that all the rel evidence indicates that
> many of the things in the Bible, are patently false.  If there can be
> evidence against a God, there surely can be evidence FOR the existence
> of God.
> 
>  The best
>> we could manage would be "evidence of a sentience that understands
>> physics far beyond our understanding".
> 
> I think the best we an manage and still be truthful is that there is o
> evidence of any god.
> 
>  We do not know enough to tell the
>> difference between a god and a technologically advanced civilization.
>> 
>> --
>> MarkA
>> 
>> Whatever you do in life, surround yourself with smart people who'll
>> argue with you.   -- John Wooden
> 
> Any sufficiently high technology is indistinguishable from magic.  
> Arthur C. Clarke



-- 
MarkA

Whatever you do in life, surround yourself with smart people who'll 
argue with you.   -- John Wooden

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I wnet looking for evidence of God Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 17:04 -0700
  Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 17:12 -0700
  Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2016-06-04 02:04 +0000
    Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 21:17 -0700
      Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2016-06-04 15:37 +0000
    Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 21:22 -0700
    Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 21:24 -0700
      Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-04 04:38 -0700
    Re: I wnet looking for evidence of God hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-04 03:47 -0700

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