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Re: *nix: pdftotext messes quotes; mouse-pastes OK?

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On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 22:18:53 -0700, luser- -droog wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:36:28 AM UTC-5, Unknown wrote:
>> How does mouse-pasting from `xpdf <file.pdf>` manage to do the quote/
>> apostrophe correctly; when `pdftotext` can't do it: but translates the
>> single-quote to 3 non-ASCII-chars ?!
>> 
>> I'm guessing, that working backwards from the screen: screen
>> <-FrameBufrPixels <-Char & Font Well yes,the mouse current X,Y position
>> is/must be mappable to the corresponding char.
>> Whereas `pdftotext` only sees the bytes of the <File.pdf>. Ie. the
>> mouse works with wysiwyg, where as `pdftotext` misses out several
>> translation steps.
>> 
>> Is that right?
> 
> Not sure exactly what problem you're encountering, but both programs
> "only see the bytes of the file". xpdf is not looking at the pixels.
> Even to do things like mouse selection of text, it stores the
> bounding-boxes of strings as it sets them. Then it checks the (x,y)
> coordinates of the mouse position against the list of boxes.
> 
> There is no "working backwards from the screen". Instead, both programs
> work with the encoded representation stored in the pdf file. Often this
> can be a non-standard custom encoding devised just to store the specific
> text of the document. If the font is also embedded, it can be a recoded
> subset matching the custom encoding and all information about the source
> encoding is lost.
> 
> It can be the case that a glyph will look the same as an ascii character
> but really be some other Unicode code point. In this case, all gui tools
> may seamlessly show the same character, but an ascii-only text editor
> will show the UTF-8 multi-byte encoding as several gibberish characters.
> So it could be it really is a Right-Single-Quote instead of an ascii
> single quote, and you're just not seeing it.

Since I wrote this, I've discovered:
 `pdftotext <option for ASCII> <args>`
which apparently replaces the 3-byte-crap with <singleQuote>.

So then the mouse-pasting does that by default.

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*nix: pdftotext messes quotes; mouse-pastes OK? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 05:34 +0000
  Re: *nix: pdftotext messes quotes; mouse-pastes OK? luser- -droog <mijoryx@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 22:18 -0700
    Re: *nix: pdftotext messes quotes; mouse-pastes OK? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 13:27 +0000

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