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Re: Plonking

From BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Plonking
Date 2012-11-26 07:18 -0700
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:11:52 +0000, Ben Bacarisse wrote:

> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
> 
>> On 11/24/2012 09:23 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
>> ...
>>>> He's pointing out that publicly announcing that you're plonking someone
>>>> is equivalent to publishing a list, of length 1, of people who you don't
>>>> read.
>>> 
>>> Yes, that was obvious, but I wasn't talking about plonking so I wondered
>>> why BruceS replied to me rather than at some other point in the
>>> conversation.
>>> 
>> You talked about "When people speak out about an unacceptable remark
>> ..." in response to my message suggesting that it was not helpful to
>> announce plonking. "speak out" could refer to many different things, but
>> I assumed you meant it to include announcing that you've plonked someone
>> as a result of the unacceptable remark;
> 
> Really?  Would theatrically covering your eyes in front of someone being
> beaten up in the street, or making a show of putting your fingers in
> your ears at a racist rally be "speaking out" about it?  Sometimes I
> feel I've gone down the rabbit hole -- typing "plonk" is not "speaking
> out".

In that case, I misunderstood your intention, and my response would have
been better elsethread.  It seems to me that many *do* consider saying
"plonk" as "speaking out" against the behavior of the one being plonked. 
As you don't, I guess I was just confused.  

>> if not, your comment seems out
>> of place as a response to my message.
> 
> You said that there is no choice but to tolerate unacceptable behaviour.
> I disagreed and said what one option is: to speak out about what we find
> unacceptable.  How is that out of place?

Not so much out of place, just subject to incorrect interpretation.  Since
we'd been discussing plonking, I (and I think others) took your "speak
out" as meaning just that.

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