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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:17:32 +0000, Ben Bacarisse wrote:

> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
> 
>> On 11/13/2012 03:46 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote: ...
>>>> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:02:54 AM UTC-8, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>> ...
>>>>> I think that issuing a public "plonk" tends to create a sense of
>>>>> excitement and does more harm than good. Best not to give annoying
>>>>> people the drama, and just quietly ignore them.
>>> 
>>> I disagree. It's (often) good to say in public that you don't tolerate
>>> a certain behavior.
>>
>> The problem is that we have no choice about tolerating the behavior -
>> there's nothing we can do to stop it. The most we can do is ignore it;
>> and we do a better job of ignoring it if we don't even bother
>> announcing the fact that we're doing so. The announcement serves only
>> to highlight the fact that we can't do anything to stop the behavior.
> 
> I think that's too simplistic and too defeatist.  When people speak out
> about an unacceptable remark it can have all sorts of positive effects
> quite apart from any it may or may not have on the person who made it.
> 
> By the way, there are two meanings of tolerate here that may, in part,
> be the cause of some of this disagreement.  I imagine that Jorgen is
> using it the sense of "to bear without repugnance" rather than in the
> neutral "to allow or to permit" sense.

Now I'm ambivalent.  I've avoided public plonking (instead silently adding
someone to a killfile or filter, or simply ignoring him) and had also
noticed that many who did so seemed to be dishonest about it.  The "taking
a stand" argument holds some merit, especially after the recent thread by
a regular who felt everyone was against him when a troll went unanswered.
So, to what extent does it make sense to publish one's entire list, both
of plonked posters and of anti-plonked posters (white list), possibly with
rationale?  If done at all often, that sort of thing could clog up the ng,
but other than that, does it make sense?  If not, then why does it make
sense to publish part of that list?

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          Re: C.B. Falconer, RIP  1931-2012 James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-12 12:58 -0500
        Re: C.B. Falconer, RIP  1931-2012 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-11-13 05:02 -0800
          Re: C.B. Falconer, RIP  1931-2012 hormelfree@gmail.com - 2012-11-13 06:57 -0800
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              Re: Plonking (was Re: C.B. Falconer, RIP  1931-2012) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-13 20:13 -0500
                Re: Plonking Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-14 02:17 +0000
                Re: Plonking BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-24 11:19 -0700
                Re: Plonking Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-24 21:18 +0000
                Re: Plonking James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-24 20:25 -0500
                Re: Plonking Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-25 02:23 +0000
                Re: Plonking James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-24 23:02 -0500
                Re: Plonking Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-25 13:11 +0000
                Re: Plonking gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-11-25 14:24 +0000
                Re: Plonking Greg Martin <greg@softsprocket.com> - 2012-11-25 09:15 -0800
                [OT] Re: Plonking Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-11-25 12:32 -0500
                Re: Plonking James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-25 17:42 -0500
                Re: Plonking Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-11-25 23:17 +0000
                Re: Plonking "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2012-11-25 20:23 -0500
                Re: Plonking Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-11-26 03:38 -0800
                Re: Plonking BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-26 07:18 -0700
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                Re: C.B. Falconer, RIP 1931-2012 "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2012-11-25 20:14 -0500
      Re: C.B. Falconer, RIP  1931-2012 James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-11-11 10:43 -0500

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