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Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !!

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !!
Date 2018-04-10 20:59 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd Big Dog
> "> You don't really have a model, 
> 
> Now, John, there’s that lie again, second time in half a day.  No shame? No 
> integrity? "
> 
> Okay- you don't have a model that you can draw or explain in language
> other than probability math- okay?
> 

And that is correct, except for “probability math”. Math is used in physics
as a language in ways much more diverse than probability. Gauge invariance
and symmetry groups, for example, are enormously useful and descriptive and
have nothing — repeat, nothing — to do with probability. 

So when you say “you don’t have a model,” what you SHOULD be saying is “you
don’t have a model in a form I can digest, and it’s your fault that you
expect people to learn math to be able to follow it.”  That way, the nature
of the simpering whine can be fully appreciated. 

I just want to remind you, John, that I am a woodworker, a common
craftsman. You won’t find me whining that physicists owe me short
explanations in a few paragraphs in conventional everyday language and a
couple of pictures to make things clear. Instead, I took the trouble to
read and learn, something that seems to make you dry-heave. You seem intent
on blaming everyone else for your choices. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 12:09 +0000
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