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Re: The incoming speed of light is variable

From HGW <HW@home.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The incoming speed of light is variable
Date 2018-04-04 08:40 +1000
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On 04/04/18 03:36, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 4/3/18 5:02 AM, HGW wrote:
>> On 03/04/18 13:38, Tom Roberts wrote:

>>> It isn't measured "exactly", but for the annual Doppler effect it is measured with resolution considerably smaller 
>>> than the variations in earth's orbital velocity. So the assumption of "c+v/c-v" is inconsistent with the measurements 
>>> by many standard deviations, and is thus refuted.
>>
>> ABSOLUTE CRAP! Typical Roberts nonsense!
> 
> You merely display your personal ignorance.

The fact that you have a closed mind and are incapable of learning some very basic facts does not make me ignorant.

>> The difference between the Newtonian and Einsteinian prediction for Doppler shift is impossible to resolve in such cases.
> 
> Sure. So what???? -- that is NOT what I am talking about.
> 
> I am pointing out that the changes in the measured wavelength and frequency CANCEL in the equation for the speed of the 
> incoming light, and yield a value of c at all times of the year.

Light does not possess an intrinsic frequency...and its wavelength is not and cannot be affected by anything the 
infinite number of  observers do. The 'frequency' you are talking about is defined as c/lambda, which is the rate at 
which 'wavelengths' depart from the source. That should be obvious to anyone who claims to be a physicist. The wave 
arrival 'frequency' is c+v)/lambda.

>      They cancel to first order in v/c, if that is all that a
>      given measurement is sensitive to. They cancel exactly
>      (i.e. to all orders) in the predictions of SR/GR.
> 
>> Nobody has measured the OW light speed of incoming light from anything except a source at rest.
> 
> Only in your PERSONAL FANTASY WORLD. In the world we actually inhabit it has been measured many times in several 
> different ways.

I repeat, NOBODY has directly associated a frequency with light. Every text book on the subject DEFINES the frequency 
you are talking about as 'c/lambda'. That is obviously not an INTRINSIC property of the light itself but one generated 
in a source or a receiver at rest with it.

> Tom Roberts


-- 

    HGW

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    Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-26 10:56 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 12:54 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-26 20:01 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-03-27 19:52 +1100
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-27 06:58 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-03-28 16:56 +1100
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-27 06:10 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-27 08:50 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Micah Strobl <aui@cwwi.cu> - 2018-03-27 18:11 +0000
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-27 20:53 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Micah Strobl <aui@cwwi.cu> - 2018-03-27 20:08 +0000
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-27 11:55 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Micah Strobl <aui@cwwi.cu> - 2018-03-27 19:05 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-27 14:45 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-28 07:10 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 07:29 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-28 15:24 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:44 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-27 06:05 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-03-27 12:37 +1100
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-26 18:45 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-26 18:56 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-26 19:22 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-27 06:41 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-03-28 16:58 +1100
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-28 15:11 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-03-29 19:31 +1100
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 18:48 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-27 06:55 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 11:25 +0000
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-27 04:36 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:12 +0000
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-28 00:16 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:30 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-28 23:23 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 11:39 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-29 09:50 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-27 07:05 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:12 +0000
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 12:58 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-28 06:50 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 07:44 -0700
  Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-27 09:08 -0700
    Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-27 09:22 -0700
    Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-27 09:31 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-27 09:45 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-27 09:54 -0700
    Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-27 13:26 -0400
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-27 13:23 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-27 14:10 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-28 09:37 -0400
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-28 07:25 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 08:06 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-28 09:01 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:10 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:18 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:31 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:43 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 13:48 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-29 08:48 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:00 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 10:33 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 11:10 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-29 14:59 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 15:06 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 15:17 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:07 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:09 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 18:05 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-30 13:56 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-30 14:01 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-30 14:41 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-30 15:26 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-30 15:40 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-30 21:44 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 16:37 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-31 10:26 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-03-31 10:38 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-31 10:45 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 11:25 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 20:54 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-01 22:49 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-02 07:06 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-02 09:12 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-02 13:45 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-02 15:30 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-04-03 12:24 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-03 03:38 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-31 14:18 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-31 14:49 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-01 19:05 +0200
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-28 16:07 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-31 09:03 -0500
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-31 08:20 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-31 08:26 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Emory Walpole <aibw@wrtwgt.lr> - 2018-03-31 16:13 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-31 20:05 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Emory Walpole <aibw@wrtwgt.lr> - 2018-03-31 19:02 +0000
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-31 13:52 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-01 08:15 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-01 10:12 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-02 10:51 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-02 07:34 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 08:17 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 09:08 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-31 19:09 -0500
                The Doppler effect (was: The incoming speed of light is variable) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-01 05:26 +0200
                Re: The Doppler effect HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-02 10:59 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-01 10:06 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-01 11:45 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-01 15:55 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-01 22:50 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-02 09:17 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 10:00 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-02 11:44 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-02 16:29 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Emory Walpole <aibw@wrtwsgt.lr> - 2018-04-02 23:21 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 16:33 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-02 22:38 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-03 20:02 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Emory Walpole <aibw@wrtwsgt.lr> - 2018-04-03 11:37 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-03 12:39 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-03 12:36 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-04 08:40 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-03 20:20 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-04 16:27 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-04 12:31 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-05 08:23 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-04-05 01:35 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-05 10:56 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-04 18:14 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-04 18:17 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-05 02:15 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-05 15:32 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-05 10:43 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-06 09:55 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 12:42 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-07 10:00 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-06 17:43 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-08 08:58 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-08 05:08 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 02:26 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-05 04:47 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-04 19:22 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-05 15:11 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-05 04:42 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-05 06:04 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-06 13:50 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-06 08:10 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-07 09:43 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-06 17:25 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-07 07:27 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-08 04:10 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-08 04:09 -0700
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                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 12:09 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-08 05:29 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 12:32 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-08 15:20 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-08 16:35 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-08 16:30 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-08 05:01 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-08 05:18 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-08 07:27 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-10 19:11 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-10 19:14 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-10 07:12 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-04 21:27 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-04 13:02 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-04 13:05 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-04 15:08 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-04 13:19 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-04 13:31 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-04 13:39 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-05 09:24 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-05 06:15 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-09 09:35 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-09 16:13 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-03 08:39 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-02 11:06 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-02 18:21 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-02 11:21 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 11:30 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-03 00:41 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-02 19:22 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-03 02:26 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 20:11 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-02 20:15 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-03 09:45 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-03 05:15 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-03 14:50 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-03 07:06 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-03 18:53 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-03 11:46 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-08 11:19 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 19:21 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-08 21:11 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 08:50 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-09 04:49 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-12 18:35 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-12 17:06 -0500
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-04-13 09:32 +1000
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-13 04:46 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 07:42 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-13 08:57 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 10:18 +0100
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-14 08:52 +0200
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-14 00:11 -0700
                Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-13 06:31 -0700
                Speed of light in space near earth Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-08 17:11 -0500
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-04-09 13:00 +1000
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-09 09:29 -0500
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-04-10 14:55 +1000
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-10 22:26 +0200
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-04-11 13:26 +1000
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-11 18:46 -0500
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-12 10:44 +1000
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-08 20:50 -0700
                Re: Speed of light in space near earth "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-08 20:55 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-01 00:02 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-28 15:04 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:38 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-29 08:55 -0700
    Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-28 07:40 -0700
      Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-28 08:28 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 08:43 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 08:53 -0700
        Re: The incoming speed of light is variable kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-28 15:32 -0700
          Re: The incoming speed of light is variable Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-03-29 09:23 -0700
            Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:27 -0700
              Re: The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:36 -0700
  The incoming speed of light is variable "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 07:36 -0700
    Re: The incoming speed of light is variable rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 08:06 -0700

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