Re: More favourite opening lines

Newsgroups	rec.arts.sf.written
From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject	Re: More favourite opening lines
Message-ID	<pBztpJ.M8r@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date	2018-07-17 04:27 +0000
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In article <76b58803-b637-4a93-a8e0-31590152ad53@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 4:30:06 PM UTC-6, David Goldfarb wrote:
>> In article <pBuCIu.11F3@kithrup.com>,
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>> >In article <pBsHFn.yxo@kithrup.com>,
>> >David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>In article <5b-dnaSZgNrK4drGnZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>> >>David DeLaney  <dbdatvic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>Sure they do; Neil Gaiman reminded us of that, for example. One is
>> >made of horn
>> >>>and the other of ivory; one lets true dreams through, the other false ones.
>> >>
>> >>You do recall that he was stealing from Homer, right? (Probably
>> >>you do, but I can't tell.)
>> >
>> >If not Hesiod.
>> 
>> Gaiman stole from Hesiod for the parentage of his Endless, but if
>> Hesiod refers to the gates of horn and ivory, Wikipedia does not
>> mention it. Their source is Odyssey 19 560-69.
>
>The only reference I noticed to continued use of the image in Ancient Rome was 
>by Virgil in the Aenid, also in that Wikipedia article. But not having read 
>"Works and Days" from beginning to end, I can't be certain it isn't there.

Well, I have.  But it's been a while.  I used it as a reference
for several of the Cynthia stories, e.g. things you mustn't do
lest you be cursed.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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More favourite opening lines Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-25 17:44 -0700
  Re: More favourite opening lines goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-06-26 04:30 +0000
    Re: More favourite opening lines Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-06-26 08:58 -0700
    Re: More favourite opening lines Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-06-27 16:10 +1200
      Re: More favourite opening lines ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-27 05:16 +0000
        Re: More favourite opening lines peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2018-06-27 16:31 -0700
          Re: More favourite opening lines Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-28 03:48 +0300
          Re: More favourite opening lines "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-28 09:39 -0700
            Re: More favourite opening lines djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-28 17:10 +0000
        Re: More favourite opening lines Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-27 17:36 -0700
        Re: More favourite opening lines David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-27 19:45 -0500
          Re: More favourite opening lines ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-28 03:44 +0000
          Re: More favourite opening lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-07-01 18:59 -0700
        Re: More favourite opening lines tonynance17@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 05:52 -0700
          Re: More favourite opening lines peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2018-06-28 10:10 -0700
            Re: More favourite opening lines tonynance17@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 05:51 -0700
              Re: More favourite opening lines Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-07-02 09:36 -0700
          Re: More favourite opening lines David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-28 16:32 -0500
            Re: More favourite opening lines goldfarb@kithrup.com (David Goldfarb) - 2018-06-29 05:16 +0000
              Re: More favourite opening lines Michael Ikeda <mmikeda@erols.com> - 2018-06-29 11:17 +0000
                Re: More favourite opening lines Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-29 14:16 -0700
                Re: More favourite opening lines Michael Ikeda <mmikeda@erols.com> - 2018-06-30 12:10 +0000
                Re: More favourite opening lines Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-30 05:56 -0700
                Re: More favourite opening lines David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-07-12 11:05 -0500
                Re: More favourite opening lines djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-07-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: More favourite opening lines Panthera Tigris Altaica <northerntiger@outlook.com> - 2018-07-12 12:57 -0700
                Re: More favourite opening lines goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-07-13 05:18 +0000
                Re: More favourite opening lines djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-07-14 05:28 +0000
                Re: More favourite opening lines goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-07-16 22:29 +0000
                Re: More favourite opening lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-07-16 20:49 -0700
                Re: More favourite opening lines djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-07-17 04:27 +0000
            Re: More favourite opening lines David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 10:00 +0100
            Re: More favourite opening lines "Lee Gleason" <lee.gleason@comcast.net> - 2018-07-01 14:31 -0500
              Re: More favourite opening lines peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2018-07-01 16:04 -0700
                Re: More favourite opening lines "Lee Gleason" <lee.gleason@comcast.net> - 2018-07-01 18:49 -0500
              Re: More favourite opening lines D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-07-01 23:12 +0000
            Re: More favourite opening lines tonynance17@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 05:52 -0700
          Re: More favourite opening lines goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-06-29 05:10 +0000
            Re: More favourite opening lines tonynance17@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 05:55 -0700
          Re: More favourite opening lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-07-01 19:01 -0700
            Re: More favourite opening lines tonynance17@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 05:56 -0700
        Re: More favourite opening lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-07-02 05:12 -0700
      Re: More favourite opening lines Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-27 16:40 -0700
        Re: More favourite opening lines Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-06-28 15:38 +1200
  Re: More favourite opening lines "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2018-06-26 08:36 +0100
    Re: More favourite opening lines Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 05:39 -0700
  Re: More favourite opening lines Harold Hill <kyle.pellarkosbar@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 06:23 -0700
    Re: More favourite opening lines Steve Dodds <sdodds@nova-optical.com> - 2018-07-02 07:19 -0600
  Re: More favourite opening lines D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-30 16:46 +0000
  Re: More favourite opening lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-07-01 19:12 -0700
  Re: More favourite opening lines Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 23:06 -0500

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