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Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber

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From djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber
Message-ID <pAMyyA.1u20@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date 2018-06-20 19:18 +0000
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In article <robertaw-479639.09544820062018@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward  <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>Just how many people have been disinvited from cons over the years? 
>And why? IMHO, nothing short of criminal charges would be a valid reason.

I don't know about *valid* reasons, but "never bathing from one
year to the next" and "walking through the halls talking crazy to
yourself in an excessively loud voice" sound like *understandable*
(even if invalid) reasons.

And whether "hate speech" and "uninvited touching" can be
criminal charges depends on whether one can bring enough
evidence to bring a criminal case against them.

In the end, it's up to the ConComm to establish boundaries and
publish them, and then to judge any complaints on a case-by-case
basis.

DunDraCon isn't your orindary SF con; for one thing, it's a
gaming con, and for another, the same committee (modulo committee
members quitting or dying and other members coming on*) has been
running it for the past forty-odd years.

We put a harrassment policy up on the webpage a couple years ago,
and reprint it in the program book, because it seemed necessary.

Our registration system is heavily computerized (all home-grown),
and one of the things it has is an option for rejecting a
membership if the name is flagged as someone we don't ever want
to have on our premises ever again.  The set of such people has
one member at present, a guy whose known modus operandi was
groping underage girls.  If he comes in and tries to register, 
the terminal freezes and a message comes up telling the
volunteer to call Hal, or me, or our daughter Meg, or one of our
senior Reg people who knows what it's about.

Hal comments, "We've never actually used it, because he never
tried to register again, and I believe he got into legal trouble
in L.A. and is now a guest of the State."

But if anybody else acts sufficiently like a jerk, into the
database he'll go.

______
Of the original DunDraCon Committee, one member remains: Steve
Perrin, co-creator of _Runequest_ and current Seminars organizer.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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"The Vote is in" by David Weber Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 20:31 -0500
  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2018-06-20 09:23 -0400
    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-20 09:54 -0700
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-20 17:26 +0000
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 18:22 +0000
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-20 19:37 +0000
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-21 10:06 -0700
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 17:13 +0000
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-22 10:32 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 17:47 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 17:49 +0000
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 12:40 -0500
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 19:18 +0000
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 20:15 +0000
          Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 20:40 +0000
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-20 15:24 -0700
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 22:33 +0000
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:10 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 17:43 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:22 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2018-06-27 11:24 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 06:24 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 09:15 -0700
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-06-21 09:43 -0500
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-21 15:56 -0700
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-20 22:26 +0000
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-06-20 15:33 -0700
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:12 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 00:05 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 01:10 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:47 -0400
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 19:16 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:19 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-21 02:22 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:19 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-06-20 17:44 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:24 -0700
              Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-21 17:02 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 17:37 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 13:31 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 13:35 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 15:52 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-22 17:45 +0100
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 17:00 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-22 17:05 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 17:39 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:23 -0400
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 21:08 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 00:01 -0400
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-06-22 19:46 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 13:24 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-22 14:06 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-22 21:27 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-06-23 10:08 +0100
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 21:10 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-06-22 19:45 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:14 -0600
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-25 14:15 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:13 -0600
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:28 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-06-22 17:41 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:43 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-22 21:30 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:36 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-06-23 10:49 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 18:50 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 12:25 -0600
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:17 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-24 14:11 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 00:47 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-24 23:12 -0600
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 05:57 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 06:16 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 10:01 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 10:32 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 10:43 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-06-25 17:47 +0000
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 11:08 -0700
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-26 00:09 -0600
                Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-06-25 14:42 +0000
            Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2018-06-27 11:22 -0700
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-06-21 09:43 -0700
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-22 07:04 -0700
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-06-22 07:21 -0700
        Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber mvp@web1.calweb.com (Mike Van Pelt) - 2018-06-22 23:46 +0000
  Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber MIKEN <burdsman35@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 18:31 -0700
    Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-06-21 01:46 +0000
      Re: "The Vote is in" by David Weber Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-06-20 21:41 -0700

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