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Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth?

From Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth?
Date 2018-03-17 09:52 -0500
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On 3/17/2018 1:08 AM, benj wrote:
> On 3/16/2018 10:32 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 3/16/2018 2:03 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
>>> On 16/03/2018 06:15, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> See what they say.
>>>
>>> Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that i am on a galaxy which is
>>> 10,000,000,000 light years from the earth. By a bit of good
>>> planning i have my laser with me and i shine this laser at you for a
>>> whole year. The front of this laser beam will take exactly
>>> 10,000,000,000 to reach you here on Earth (hopefully you will still be
>>> alive eh!). The rear end of my laser signal will take slightly longer to
>>> reach you because the speed of light has decreased in the year i've been
>>> holding this laser. If light decreases by my suggestion of one part in
>>> 10 billion per year, the rear end of the signal will take exactly
>>> 10,000,000,001 years to reach you here on Earth.
>>>
>>> Thus the light beam from my laser is stretch by a factor of 2 ( because
>>> the end of the beam left 1 year after the start, and took 1 year longer
>>> on the journey.). However the number of waves sent will be exactly the
>>> same as the number received, (assuming you are careful and don't miss
>>> any,) so the wavelength must also have been stretched by a factor of 2.
>>> This is equivalent to a red-shift of 1, and corresponds reasonably well
>>> with what is found in practice, in our observatories.
>>>
>>> Talking Rock eh!
>>
>> if your laser has a divergance of  0.01 mrad  how much path loss is
>> there (1/d^2) over 10,000,000,000 light years ?
>>
>> How much power output is needed at your laser to be detectable on earth
>> using a photomultiplier tube ?
>>
> Give it up, Sergio, Lib writers like Starfaker don't do science, they
> only do fantasy.

your right,
he didn't even ask for the gain of the PMT, or the diameter of the
receiving mirror here on earth.

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Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-15 23:15 -0700
  Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-16 09:25 -0700
  Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 09:39 -0700
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 10:19 -0700
  Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 19:03 +0000
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 14:53 -0700
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 18:33 -0700
      Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-16 20:12 -0700
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-03-16 21:32 -0500
      Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 21:21 -0700
      Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-03-17 02:08 -0400
        Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-03-17 09:52 -0500
  Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 19:12 +0000
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Térov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik> - 2018-03-16 21:01 +0000
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 15:15 -0700
  Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 23:02 +0000
  Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 21:33 -0700
    Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 08:45 +0000
      Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-19 09:22 -0700
        Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-23 10:46 -0700
          Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-24 10:21 -0700
          Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-25 00:54 -0700
            Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-25 00:59 -0700
              Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-25 20:48 -0700
                Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-26 00:06 -0700
                Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-26 19:00 -0700
                Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 10:37 -0700
                Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 15:51 -0700
                Re: Does  Life Exist On Earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 23:30 -0700
      Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-22 13:29 -0700
        Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 01:41 +0000
        A more considered response to Mr.Hanson Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 11:00 +0100
          Re: A more considered response to Mr.Hanson "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-25 13:26 -0700
      Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 15:16 -0700
        Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 06:17 -0700
          Re: Does Intelligent Life Exist On Earth? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 14:49 +0000

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