Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone
Date	2016-06-16 22:35 +0000
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jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> cowbird <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> cowbird <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:53:23 AM UTC-7, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> June 10, 2016
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2016/06/scientists-turn-carbon-dioxide.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Turning carbon emissions to stone is even dumber
>>>>>>>>> than doing nothing at all. And doing nothing is
>>>>>>>>> pretty stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The real problem is not that man has put too much
>>>>>>>>> carbon into the atmosphere. The problem is man's
>>>>>>>>> agriculture production model has destroyed too
>>>>>>>>> much carbon from the world's soils.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Do you even know how photosynthesis works?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://modernfarmer.com/2016/03/carbon-farming/
>>>>>>> All agricultural production originates from the process of
>>>>>>> plant photosynthesis, which uses sunshine to combine carbon
>>>>>>> dioxide (CO2) from the air with water and minerals from the
>>>>>>> soil to produce plant material, both above and below ground.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Common agricultural practices, including driving a tractor, tilling
>>>>>>> the soil and grazing, result in the return of CO2 to the air.  As
>>>>>>>     much as one third of the surplus CO2 in the atmosphere driving
>>>>>>> climate change today has come from land management practices that
>>>>>>> cause loss of carbon, as CO2, from our working lands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, carbon can be stored long-term (decades to
>>>>>>> centuries or more) in soils in a process called "soil carbon
>>>>>>> sequestration." Carbon Farming involves implementing practices
>>>>>>> that are known to improve the rate at which CO2 is removed from
>>>>>>> the atmosphere and converted to plant material and/or soil
>>>>>>> organic matter.  Carbon Farming is successful when carbon gains
>>>>>>> resulting from enhanced land management and/or conservation
>>>>>>> practices exceed carbon losses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's that carbon worth per acre on the open market?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In Iowa carbon rich black dirt goes for about $10000/acre
>>>>> more than carbon poor tan dirt. So for a 1000 acre farm -
>>>>> about 10 million dollars
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Humus, which is what is responsible for black dirt, is far more than carbon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Without carbon it is nothing
>>
>> And oxygen and hydrogen and nitrogen and phosphorous and...
>>
> 
> Humus is About 60% carbon. And it is not created by
> plowing under tomato plants. That results in loss of
> humus.

Are the tractor drivers stealing it?

Humus comes from decayed plant matter; it doesn't bubble up from within
the Earth.

Plowing non-harvested plant matter back into the ground provides more
stuff to form humus, though you are always losing some stuff to the
parts of the plants that are harvasted and taken away.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-14 07:53 -0500
  Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-14 11:12 -0500
  Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-14 17:59 +0000
    Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-14 15:25 -0500
      Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-14 23:52 +0000
        Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-14 19:41 -0500
          Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-15 01:29 +0000
            Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-14 21:44 -0500
              Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-15 03:28 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-15 09:49 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-15 17:17 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-15 16:13 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-15 22:50 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 09:15 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 16:14 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 13:17 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 20:53 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 13:59 -0700
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-15 20:04 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-16 09:44 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 10:12 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-16 10:43 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 13:28 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-17 08:02 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-17 12:27 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 13:54 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 20:54 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 16:16 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 21:57 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 17:43 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 23:08 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 19:27 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-17 00:49 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2016-06-17 11:47 +1200
  Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 02:16 -0700
    Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-15 17:20 +0000
      Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 07:33 -0500
        Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 16:17 +0000
          Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 13:53 -0500
            Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 20:55 +0000
              Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 16:30 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 22:04 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 17:51 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 23:09 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 18:07 -0500
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 23:23 +0000
                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> - 2016-06-16 19:16 -0500
    Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-15 20:21 -0500
      Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 05:10 +0000
        Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone cowbird <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-16 06:56 -0500
          Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 16:23 +0000
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              Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 20:58 +0000
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                Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-16 22:35 +0000
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