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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
| Subject | Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? |
| Message-ID | <p65o38.1v1y@kithrup.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2018-03-25 16:49 +0000 |
| References | <p90elu$ni2$1@reader2.panix.com> <547c8e24-d31d-430f-b2fb-37f841ea5083@googlegroups.com> <XnsA8AFE7910386Cmelchizedek@216.166.97.131> <iiifbdtvcaq2flt9dhlpmdikl49vs226iv@4ax.com> |
| Organization | Kithrup Enterprises, Ld. |
In article <iiifbdtvcaq2flt9dhlpmdikl49vs226iv@4ax.com>, J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 10:45:57 -0500, Cryptoengineer ><treifamily@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in >>news:547c8e24-d31d-430f-b2fb-37f841ea5083@googlegroups.com: >> >>> On Saturday, 24 March 2018 00:48:57 UTC, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 10:33:50 -0700, Robert Woodward >>>> <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >In article <e9647a1a-4e7e-4873-919f-e0d562d55ff3@googlegroups.com>, >>>> > Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 1:16:53 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > In article <p90elu$ni2$1@reader2.panix.com>, jdnicoll@panix.com >>>> >> > (James Nicoll) wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > https://www.tor.com/2018/03/22/why-the-hell-are-these-books-out >>>> >> > > -of-print/ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > It is all part of the erasure of the past. You can't publish new >>>> >> > books if the old books are still around using press time and >>>> >> > shelf space. >>>> >> >>>> >> A one-time (albeit not quite trivial) digitizing job can fix that. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >Scans of sufficient resolution will use up storage space. >>>> >>>> It's 2018. Terabyte drives are dropping out of the bottom of the >>>> market. >>> >>> Not for tablet devices - not literally, not quite yet, >>> although a device built to play video, for instance, should >>> accommodate a substantial library of scanned books in its own >>> storage, if that's how it has to be. Devices are sufficiently >>> connected now that a book could be streamed, although I don't >>> know if this happens outside audiobooks. And of course it would >>> be annoying to lose connection and be unable to get the next page. >>> >>>> >Correcting OCR >>>> >will use up time more usefully spent reading more books (probably >>>> >more than 1 book per book digitized). >> >>When I suggested digitization, I was addressing the storage problem >>that made books go out of print. I was envisaging publishers/authors >>having the book digitized, OCR'd, and corrected once, and then making >>digital copies available. I wasn't suggesting individual owners scan >>and OCR their own copies. > >There hasn't been any real excuse for a long time. Phototypesetters >that required that the book be produced in electronic form started >coming into use in the '70s. Any book published in the last 40 years >or so was in electronic form at some point--from there making an ebook >out of it should be fairly easy to automate. Assuming the electronic form hasn't been erased. (Cf. a lot of early episodes of Doctor Who, which were recorded over because tapes cost money.) -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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[tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-22 14:30 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 16:20 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-03-22 10:16 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 10:45 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-03-23 10:33 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 20:48 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-23 21:08 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 08:53 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-03-24 09:48 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:11 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 10:45 -0500
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 12:14 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-25 16:49 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 13:31 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-26 04:28 +0300
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 22:37 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-26 05:56 +0300
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-25 21:40 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 04:11 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-26 03:29 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 04:03 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-25 21:34 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-25 13:15 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Anthony Frost <Vulch@vulch.org> - 2018-03-26 10:45 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 06:05 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 09:17 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-03-26 01:16 +0100
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 22:38 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 19:35 -0500
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:52 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-26 19:58 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 23:20 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 06:08 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-22 21:41 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-03-23 10:31 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 18:28 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2018-03-25 17:46 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-03-24 10:09 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-24 17:34 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-22 11:24 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-22 17:47 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 11:07 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2018-03-22 17:57 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-22 12:42 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-22 14:10 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-22 17:38 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 16:57 -0500
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-23 13:36 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-23 06:57 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Dan ONeill <garudaco@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:50 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:23 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-23 14:57 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 18:30 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-03-25 14:57 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-25 22:46 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-03-25 16:12 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-26 01:22 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-03-25 20:47 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-26 04:00 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 04:21 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 04:23 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-26 14:18 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 07:49 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 11:23 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-26 15:34 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 10:05 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:33 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 16:24 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-26 15:40 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:55 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-26 09:39 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-03-26 14:16 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 17:24 -0400
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-26 14:44 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-26 14:31 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 14:36 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 22:00 +0000
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-26 15:26 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 15:37 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-29 11:33 -0700
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 05:35 -0500
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2018-03-26 11:26 -0600
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 11:39 -0500
Re: [tor dot com] Why the Hell Are These Books Out of Print? jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-23 16:55 +0000
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