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Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum?

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Subject Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum?
Date 2016-06-25 15:38 +0000
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Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 05:09:24 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:26:11 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 2:24:59 PM UTC-5, Peter Percival wrote:
>>>>> I know that Newton pretended that there were seven colours in the 
>>>>> rainbow (presumably he didn't really believe it).  It seems that English 
>>>>> school children are being taught that it's true:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36577208 .
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> A high and rising proportion of children are being born to mothers
>>>>> least fitted to bring children into the world.... Some are of low
>>>>> intelligence, most of low educational attainment. They are unlikely
>>>>> to be able to give children the stable emotional background, the
>>>>> consistent combination of love and firmness.... They are producing
>>>>> problem children.... The balance of our human stock, is threatened...
>>>>>              Sir Keith Joseph
>>>>
>>>>Color is subjective perception, what difference does it make?
>>> 
>>> Because it will be on the tests the school children will be graded on.
>>
>>And it appears they are being told the "correct" answer.
> 
> If they want to be "correct" in their answer on the test, they had
> better parrot the correct indoctrination.
> 
> They may need to un-learn this "information" later:

Which is essentially true for much of grade school level education as
it needs to be simplified for the age level. 

First introduction to math: 1+1=2
Add complexity of number base: 1+1=10

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo
> Modern color scientists typically divide the spectrum between violet
> and blue at about 450 nm, with no indigo.
> 
> 
>>I highly doubt most school children would understand all the nits about
>>culture and language. 
> 
> So what? They don't need to understand it for the description to be
> relevant to the expression of their perception.

I doubt most school children would be able to parse "relevant to the
expression of their perception".

> You immediately snipped this for some reason:

Because I did not have an immediate comment on it.

> http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6490400-you-don-t-see-something-until-you-have-the-right-metaphor
> "You don?t see something until you have the right metaphor to let you
> perceive it"

And again, I highly doubt English school children are speaking much
of anything other than English.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-23 20:24 +0100
  Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 19:45 +0000
    Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-24 13:27 +0100
      Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-24 16:09 +0000
    Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-24 08:56 -0400
      Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-24 16:12 +0000
        Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-24 23:43 -0400
          Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 05:06 +0000
            Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 10:52 -0400
              Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 15:28 +0000
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 13:15 -0400
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 20:15 +0000
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 17:49 -0400
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 22:35 +0000
  Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-23 20:14 +0000
    Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-23 17:48 -0400
      Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-24 10:19 -0500
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  Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-24 18:42 +0000
    Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-24 23:49 -0400
  Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 06:43 -0700
  Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 13:26 -0700
    Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-24 23:50 -0400
      Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 05:09 +0000
        Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 11:11 -0400
          Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 15:38 +0000
            Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 12:13 -0400
              Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 16:50 +0000
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 13:53 -0400
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 20:20 +0000
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 17:08 -0400
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 21:40 +0000
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-25 18:20 -0400
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-25 22:51 +0000
                Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-25 19:25 -0400
  Re: Are English school children really taught that there are seven colours in the visible spectrum? Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 11:46 -0700

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