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| From | Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch.embedded |
| Subject | Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? |
| Date | 2018-01-05 21:34 -0600 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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Paul Rubin wrote: > StateMachineCOM <statemachineguru@gmail.com> writes: >> However, this does not mean that the *concept* of active objects is >> necessarily heavyweight. To the contrary, event-driven systems are >> known to be lighter weight than traditional RTOS-based systems, > > Sure, they've been in Forth multitaskers for almost 50 years, as this > article describes: > > http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef17/genproceedings/papers/haley-slides.pdf > > There's some oft-repeated wisdom that as the application gets more > complicated, cooperative multasking runs into more and more problems > (tasks hanging or blocking crash the whole system etc) and preemption > becomes important. So it's good to support both. > SO in order to have true determinism, one needs run-to-completion. This forces the design to account for any indeterminate situations. In some hard realtime domains, having the timer pop is a *fault*. It indicates that the task has overrun its time budget. So preemption seems at times to try to make that lemon into lemonade :) Preemption is the "timesharing" thing; we may or may not need it for embedded. It depends on your appetite for indeterminacy; I say if you're leaning on the timer tick to operate, you have multiple latent bugs. -- Les Cargill
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Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? StateMachineCOM <statemachineguru@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 09:47 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2018-01-05 11:51 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? StateMachineCOM <statemachineguru@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 15:30 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2018-01-05 16:34 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2018-01-05 21:34 -0600
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2018-01-05 19:52 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2018-01-06 16:42 -0600
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2018-01-08 13:45 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-01-05 23:51 +0000
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2018-01-05 16:35 -0800
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-01-06 09:45 +0000
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-01-06 12:32 +0200
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-01-06 11:16 +0000
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-01-07 13:35 +0200
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-01-07 13:55 +0000
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2018-01-06 16:49 -0600
Re: When exactly do you choose to use a RTOS (instead of a non-OS approach)? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-01-07 01:39 +0000
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