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Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon.

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Mayayana,

>  I'd be interested in that if you have code or docs you're willing to 
> share

I've got both.   I can only verify its usefullness for OE as provided with 
W98 and XP though.

I've got stored HTML pages (some from the now defunct oe5dbx.aroh.de 
website -- if you want you could also check if the "wayback machine" still 
has them -- and some ZIP files with downloads on the same subject in both 
cpp and pascal.

I've got a full program with which you can browse messages inside a .DBX . 
Its fully assembly though.  And, don't laugh, I still got code written in 
QBASIC which can do pretty-much the same -- though not as neat.

And I also have some unfinished(!) work on that directdb.dll I mentioned in 
my previous message.

So, make your choice(s).  And although I could copy/paste the textified 
contents of the HTML pages and/or a listings in a number of messages here, I 
don't think that is what this newgroup is ment for.  In other words, I would 
need some website to upload them to (plain HTML, otherwise my browser 
refuses to cooperate -- on my strict orders ofcourse :-) ), or some 
(temporary) email address.  Or ofcourse a (binary) newsgroup ment for such 
exchanges (of which I have no idea if they even exist, but we *could* use 
a(ny) now-defunct group for it if need be).

> But if I had docs I'd like to write a script to extract the emails into a
> nice neat TXT file

Now you're forcing my hand ... I even wrote an ActiveX component (which I 
access using VBScript) which is able, in its own clumsy way, to extract 
whatever fields you want from it.   But although it works, its currently not 
really "user friendly" though.

>   It's surprising how common that is.

Yup.

> Some people just really like rules and like nothing
> more than to tell you their version of the rules.

Tell me about it.  Those, and the posting/usenet-rule nazis.   They would 
not recognise a top posting if it would punch them in the face, but 
according to a number of them my posting style certainly is -- probably 
because I always leave the message I'm replying to as an "attachement" at 
the bottom. Always clearly marked as such, but some people simply cannot, or 
just refuse to read. :-(

And when, after they categorically refuse to even consider that top posting 
is a bit different, I than explain to them that a rule without a means to 
enforce it is meaningless their mental needle just jumps a groove back and 
they regurgite the same thing all over again.

> The commercial MS partner types have a lot of ideas about what's
> kosher and what isn't.

Yup.   Met them too.   I always wonder how they can actually write 
*anything* new, as they seemingly are only allowed to use what MS has 
already described (in docs or in example code presumably).   And my 
preferred "see how stuff breaks and learn from it" approach ?   Its as if 
they see water burn/satan personified. :-)

> I pointed out that the IE wrapper functions are rather hokey and allow
> cache/cookies. Someone argued that those are system cookies and cache,
> not IE cookies and cache.

Yeah, and where are those system cookies and cache supposed to be stored ? 
Besides, IE *is* the system -- with the browser just being a rather small 
graphical shell ontop of all the components which are part of the system.

Point-in-fact: being able to access the web by entering an URL in the 
addres-bar of your *file* explorer.   Being able to initiate a search by 
putting two-or-more words in that same addres bar. All *without* having IE 
installed (it annoys me to no end, with or without IE being installed).

> As such, they're normal and are supposed to be connected to downloads.
> It was an odd debate.

You can say that again.  What a pompous moron.   But yes, I met those types 
too.  I'm starting to learn to terminate conversations with them though. 
Maybe I will get the hang of it before I'm old-and-dead. :-)

> The kind of jobs where they're looking for "dedicated team players"
> AKA lackeys who don't mind working late for a set salary.

Yup.  But isn't that true of most jobs ?    Although a humorously ment 
website like https://notalwaysright.com/ is'n really representative, the 
stories are often similar: Work till you drop, and don't you dare to give 
lip.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote in message 
news:oroblr$1f5k$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> wrote
>
> |
> | My own story in that regard is that I, years ago, spend a *lot* of time
> with
> | decoding the .DBX files belonging to Outlook Express.
>
>  I'd be interested in that if you have code or docs
> you're willing to share. Just last week I wanted to find an
> old email and went to an OE backup. I was surprised
> to find that DBX extractors are very expensive. I
> ended up with a search in Notepad. But if I had docs
> I'd like to write a script to extract the emails into
> a nice neat TXT file, or maybe an MSI database,
> for better longterm backup.
>
> |
> | And than of course the bad encounters:  Like a few months back me 
> posting
> a
> | simple question with all the relevant data and a code snippet in a C++
> | forum, and than getting flack because I either should not even be 
> thinking
> | of doing something like that
> |
>   It's surprising how common that is. I get it all
> the time, still, in the VB group. I've had arguments
> over it. I think it's an issue of personality style.
> Some people just really like rules and like nothing
> more than to tell you their version of the rules.
>
>   The IE wrapper API was actually one of
> those arguments. The commercial MS partner
> types have a lot of ideas about what's kosher
> and what isn't. They don't think anyone should
> be mucking around with winsock. I pointed out
> that the IE wrapper functions are rather hokey
> and allow cache/cookies. Someone argued that
> those are system cookies and cache, not IE
> cookies and cache. As such, they're normal and
> are supposed to be connected to downloads.
> It was an odd debate. This was a professional
> programmer with a lot of experience, but who had
> completely fallen for Microsoft's IE-is-the-Internet
> scam. There was no way to even explain the idea
> that cookies and cache belong to browsers, not OSs.
>
>  I've never worked in any kind of tech office and
> have been self-employed for most of my life, but
> from what I've seen I get the sense that many
> such operations -- like many office jobs in general
> -- are paramilitary social structures with lots of
> hierarchy. The kind of jobs where they're looking
> for "dedicated team players" AKA lackeys who don't
> mind working late for a set salary.

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Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-11 13:54 +0200
  Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-11 09:11 -0400
    Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-11 17:45 +0200
      Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-11 18:24 +0200
        Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-11 12:39 -0400
          Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-11 18:59 +0200
            Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-11 14:53 -0400
              Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-11 22:22 +0200
                Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-11 17:45 -0400
                Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-12 09:25 +0200
                Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-12 10:17 -0400
                Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-10-12 19:19 +0200
                Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-12 14:17 -0400
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                Re: Cannot get VBS to retrieve a webpage using HTTPS .. spoke too soon. "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2017-10-13 14:26 -0400
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