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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?
Date	2017-09-14 09:13 -0500
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On 9/13/17 5:40 PM, HGW wrote:
> On 13/09/17 09:07, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/12/17 5:17 PM, HGW wrote:
> 
>>>>> Bodkin, if the two flashes are absolutely simultaneous
>>>>
>>>> Chaff noted.
>>>>
>>>>> , their light will arrive at the same instant at their midpoint.
>>>>
>>>> And if they are not simultaenous, they won't.
>>>
>>> I'm glad you were smart enough to work that out....and a bit 
>>> surprised actually....
>>>
>>>>> To calculate that, you have to establish whether their horizontal 
>>>>> speed is zero in the frame of the train or the embankment.
>>>>
>>>> How is a flash's speed determined?
>>>
>>> If we assume the path of the flash defines a vertical line relative 
>>> to the Earth's surface,
>>
>> Why would you use a vertical line anchored to the earth's surface as a 
>> proxy for an event?
> 
> Well, we wouldn't...but we will just for now, eh.

Nah.

> 
>>> then that line will have a horizontal velocity in the frames of both 
>>> the train and the embankment. If that is zero in the embankment 
>>> frame, light emitted by the flash at the instant it hits the ground 
>>> will move at c relative to the ground. It will move at c+v relative 
>>> to the train.
>>> Get it now? It is quite simple really. I don't know how a genius like 
>>> Einstein could make such a shambles of it.
>>>
>>>>> If it is the embankment, then the midpoint of the train will not 
>>>>> coincide with the midpoint of the embankment as the light from the 
>>>>> flashes meet at that latter point. So the fact that the train 
>>>>> observer will not see the flashes arrive simultaneously does not in 
>>>>> any way detract from the fact that they did occur absolutely 
>>>>> simultaneously.
>>>>
>>>> And so you are saying that the laws of physics are not the same for 
>>>> different frames.
>>>
>>> The laws are the same... values of some variables are obviously not. 
>>> The value of TIME is not frame dependent.
>>
>> And is measured simultaneity frame dependent or not?
> 
> Measurements have to be corrected for communication travel time.

Yes, and that's done here. Remember that both the embankment observer 
and the train observer can verify at any time that they are midway 
between the events. Therefore the communication travel time is equal for 
both strikes for either observer.

> 
> 
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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