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Re: cultured butter

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups rec.food.cooking, aus.food, aus.general, aus.politics, a;t.idiots
Subject Re: cultured butter
Date 2026-05-23 18:46 +1000
Message-ID <op.3prpa8nvbyq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink)
References (9 earlier) <10uo8rf$1503n$1@dont-email.me> <20260522105059.5d67d903@z-z> <g9f11llj9rqhfnhqr4fs3lsci6hrh2004p@4ax.com> <op.3pqyuvepbyq249@pvr2.lan> <kmm21l10si1sju81otetif0hmv84aqr3cf@4ax.com>

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Ike Fucker <it@inva.lid> wrote
>>>> Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote

>>>>> it's American butter. It probably needs salt.

>>>> Again and again and again:

>>>> AI Overview

>>>> When it comes to the best widely available
>>>> American butters, top ratings in culinary and consumer tests
>>>> consistently go to Vermont Creamery, Tillamook, and Organic Valley.

>>> I'm sure that American butter is as good as can be got.

>> More fool you

>>> Many years back the US was going to dump butter on the world market.

>>> To shore up prices our insane party politicians decided to shore-up
>>> butter prices by buying the US oversupply without checking what they
>>> were buying!

>> That never happened
>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_b8ec5457-c3c9-4c3c-9ee1-ccf85918acd2

>>> Our Battery manufacturers were made to blend this with their butter to
>>> get rid of it.

>> That never happened either

>>> This had people stop buying butter,

>> That never happened either

>>> the quality of the bought butter
>>> was rank, and would not mix with our butter, it had horrible dark
>>> yellow lumps in it and tasted terrible.

>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys

>>> It was a scam with our insane party politicians fell for.

>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys

>>> They do this in Australia more times than not.

>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys

>>> Then repeat doing it.

>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys

>>> Also the main reason butter is sold salted is it lasts longer.
>>> Unsalted butter has the same expiry time as that of fresh cream.

> I asked Grok Myself

> New Zealand's Dairy Board bought 220 million pounds (about 100,000
> tonnes) of this surplus US butter for around $155 million (roughly 70
> cents per pound — a steep discount).

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself
should be able to work out that NZ isn't Oz

You could try counting the sheep to prove that

> The goal was explicitly to prevent dumping on international markets,
> which would have hurt NZ's own butter exports (NZ was a major global
> exporter, especially to the UK and others).

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself
should be able to work out that NZ isn't Oz

You could try counting the sheep to prove that

> Much of the butter was old (some stored since 1979), lower quality for
> direct table use, and intended for reprocessing (e.g., into other
> products) rather than direct sale as premium spread.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself
should be able to work out that NZ isn't Oz

You could try counting the sheep to prove that

> It was later repackaged/rebranded in NZ (e.g., as "Twin Flags" after
> an initial Fernleaf attempt), but public reaction was often negative
> due to quality perceptions and the idea of importing "inferior"
> subsidized US butter.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself
should be able to work out that NZ isn't Oz

You could try counting the sheep to prove that

> This matches what you described: people in NZ being disgusted by the
> cheap US surplus butter threatening local industry and quality
> standards. The timeline is very close to the 1970s you mentioned (late
> 1970s surpluses building into the 1981 deal).

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself
should be able to work out that NZ isn't Oz

You could try counting the sheep to prove that

> Australia's Role

> No historical records show Australia making a comparable purchase of
> US surplus butter.

Funny that

Hilarious actually

> Australia was also a dairy producer/exporter (especially to the UK
> until the early 1970s), but it didn't intervene in the same way. US
> surplus threats were more acutely felt by NZ due to its heavier
> reliance on butter exports.

Funny that

Hilarious actually

> In the 1950s there were earlier US surplus concerns and potential
> dumping talks that worried both Australia and NZ, but nothing like the
> 1981 scale.

> Your memory is very close — it was just NZ (not Australia) that bought
> the butter to block the dump.

So you ended up face down in the mud, as always

> This kind of mix-up is common with
> cross-Tasman events from that era, especially if you were working in
> NZ at the time.

You weren't, you were just blind drunk and drug crazed. as always

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cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 11:43 -0500
  Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-18 17:20 +0000
    Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 14:56 -0500
      Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-18 15:32 -0600
      Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 02:42 +0000
        Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 12:50 +1000
          Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-19 09:17 +0000
            Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 19:46 +1000
        Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 06:44 -0500
    Re: cultured butter dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-18 21:06 +0000
  Re: cultured butter Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2026-05-18 13:43 -0400
    Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-18 17:26 -0400
      Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 02:45 +0000
        Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 06:47 -0500
          Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 03:10 +1000
            Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-19 17:40 +0000
              Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 03:57 +1000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 22:50 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 08:57 +1000
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-21 17:03 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 07:31 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 16:08 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-21 17:56 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-05-22 02:24 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 12:48 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-21 23:00 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 08:57 +0000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-22 18:58 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 05:12 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:27 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-21 17:26 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 08:57 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-21 18:15 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 10:45 +1000
              Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-19 15:10 -0400
              Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 22:46 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 08:49 +1000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 22:56 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 09:08 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-20 09:58 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-22 01:09 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 11:59 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 10:55 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-19 18:23 -0500
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-20 01:45 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 14:12 +1000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-20 05:03 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 06:15 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 08:55 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> - 2026-05-21 15:26 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 10:28 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> - 2026-05-21 21:00 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-21 17:51 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-21 17:20 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 13:16 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 14:15 -0600
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-21 16:00 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 13:24 -0500
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-21 19:33 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 05:40 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-21 15:09 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 06:37 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> - 2026-05-21 21:11 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-21 15:06 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 05:34 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 14:17 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-05-22 01:55 +0000
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-21 17:43 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 07:51 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 16:15 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-20 10:11 -0600
                Re: cultured butter phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 10:29 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-20 11:27 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-05-22 01:36 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 12:04 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 11:03 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:44 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:49 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 10:56 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 06:10 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-19 19:24 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2026-05-19 19:45 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-20 09:04 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2026-05-20 07:52 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-20 09:06 +0000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-20 17:56 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-20 12:08 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-20 14:11 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-21 04:30 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 06:19 -0500
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-21 16:06 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 05:33 +1000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-21 19:58 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 05:59 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 14:22 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-21 16:21 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-21 21:43 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 07:48 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 16:14 -0600
                Re: cultured butter aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-23 16:58 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 18:34 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-24 09:30 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-24 11:27 +1000
                Re: cultured butter daoist <daoist@nothere.org> - 2026-05-24 05:22 -0700
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-25 08:40 +1000
                Re: cultured butter aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-28 11:39 +0000
                Re: cultured butter ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-05-28 12:09 +0000
                Re: cultured butter aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:54 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Mr. Potato Head <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:53 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> - 2026-05-29 19:59 +0100
                Re: cultured butter eye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-02 15:13 +0000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:45 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 22:55 +0100
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 05:01 +0000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 05:02 +0000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 20:50 +0000
                Re: cultured butter eye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:58 +0000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 13:13 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> - 2026-06-05 21:22 +0100
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-05 20:57 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> - 2026-06-05 22:02 +0100
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-05 22:24 +0000
                Re: cultured butter aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-06 17:35 +0000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 22:19 +0000
                Re: cultured butter eye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-06 17:24 +0000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 22:26 +0000
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-22 00:57 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 11:58 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 08:53 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:39 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 13:02 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 03:47 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 12:11 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:30 -0600
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:19 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 05:24 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:29 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 11:08 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-22 09:28 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 16:32 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 03:49 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 12:12 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 11:02 -0600
                Re: cultured butter jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-05-30 20:08 +0000
                Re: cultured butter graham cracker <crispy@cr.ac> - 2026-05-30 14:24 -0600
                Re: cultured butter jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-05-31 14:51 +0000
                Re: cultured butter graham cracker <crispy@cr.ac> - 2026-05-31 10:34 -0600
                Re: cultured butter % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 14:21 -0700
                Re: cultured butter jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-05-31 14:51 +0000
                Re: cultured butter phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 11:28 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 09:40 +1000
                Re: cultured butter jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-05-31 14:52 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-01 10:31 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 10:52 -0600
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:27 +0000
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-23 03:32 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 08:53 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:37 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 12:52 +0000
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-22 13:10 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 03:51 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-22 13:54 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 12:13 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:30 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 04:52 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:00 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:29 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 12:12 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 04:54 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:05 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:29 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 13:30 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 21:45 +0000
                Re: cultured butter in Hammy's pie hole Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 18:16 -0400
                Re: cultured butter in Hammy's pie hole Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 08:30 +1000
                Re: cultured butter in Hammy's pie hole Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 03:52 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 18:29 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-23 09:04 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 05:15 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 19:17 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-23 13:12 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 04:19 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 12:54 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 14:57 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 13:01 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 05:09 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 13:13 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 05:14 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 09:06 -0600
                Re: cultured butter in Hammy's pie hole Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:23 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 08:20 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 18:24 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 16:55 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:27 -0500
                Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:19 -0500
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-23 03:26 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 18:09 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 11:08 -0600
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-23 03:28 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-21 17:59 -0400
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-21 19:07 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 10:43 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 10:50 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:30 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 06:49 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 16:53 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:25 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 09:14 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 17:46 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 18:46 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 09:08 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:28 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 06:46 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 15:44 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 08:41 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-24 10:46 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 10:53 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 13:49 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 14:10 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-05-25 14:34 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 10:23 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 06:16 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 14:44 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 10:03 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 05:40 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 14:42 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:18 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:39 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:53 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:30 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 10:50 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 11:38 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:23 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:08 -0600
                Re: cultured butter phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 16:10 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:20 -0600
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:39 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 10:13 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 11:22 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:21 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:12 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 12:19 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:09 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:09 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 08:22 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:56 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 06:38 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 15:47 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 08:55 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-24 10:47 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 11:12 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 10:12 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 06:15 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 14:44 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:30 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:53 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:26 -0600
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:41 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:09 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 08:30 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:52 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 10:17 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 11:32 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:21 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:10 -0600
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 07:57 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-05-25 14:39 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 17:08 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 17:20 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-05-26 06:56 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 15:11 -0600
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:31 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 09:09 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 15:55 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 17:46 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 08:54 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 19:40 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-22 13:05 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 03:47 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 03:48 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 11:09 -0600
                Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-22 00:55 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 11:16 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-22 10:56 -0600
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-23 04:51 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 19:01 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 09:07 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-23 17:22 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 04:04 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-23 12:48 -0600
                Re: cultured butter jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-05-23 19:39 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-05-24 00:38 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Ed P <posting.blocknews.net> - 2026-05-23 20:54 -0400
                Re: cultured butter dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-25 02:43 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 10:17 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 14:21 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Ike Tucker <it@inva.lid> - 2026-05-21 14:19 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 07:45 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-22 05:32 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-20 09:01 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-05-20 11:55 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-20 09:56 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 20:10 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 06:48 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 15:15 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 18:58 +1000
                Re: cultured butter marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 18:16 +0000
                Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 20:08 -0500
          Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-19 12:43 -0500
            Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 22:00 -0500
              Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 14:16 +1000
  Re: cultured butter dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-18 21:00 +0000
    Re: cultured butter Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-18 16:06 -0500
    Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 07:42 +1000
      Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-18 16:02 -0600
      Re: cultured butter dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 00:00 +0000
        Re: cultured butter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-05-18 20:42 -0400
        Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 10:46 +1000
    Re: cultured butter Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-05-18 21:43 +0000
      Re: cultured butter ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-19 02:47 +0000
        Re: cultured butter Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 12:52 +1000
          Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-18 22:18 -0600
            Re: cultured butter Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 06:48 -0500
              Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-19 07:52 -0600
              Re: cultured butter Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 11:36 -0400
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-19 11:07 -0600
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 17:50 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 18:32 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 18:56 +0000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 06:20 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 06:38 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 06:53 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 08:10 +1000
                Re: cultured butter dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 09:05 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 07:55 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 08:18 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-19 16:31 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 12:03 +1000
                Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 13:09 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 13:35 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-19 16:23 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 11:58 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Hound Adams <ha@inv.alid> - 2026-05-20 10:03 -0600

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