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Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience

From "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience
Date 2025-08-10 09:37 -0500
Organization To protect and to server
Message-ID <op.3a2iwjh71svx94@office-pc.attlocal.net> (permalink)
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 08:52:39 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 8/9/2025 7:39 PM, T wrote:
>> Hi W10 and W11 folks,
>>
>> I just updated my first customer under Payment Card
>> Industry (PCI) requirements to have a support operating
>> system from Windows 11.  And, of curse, it was a perfectly
>> good computer that did not meet M$ ridiculous hardware
>> requirements.
>>
>> I was so uneventful that I almost fell asleep.
>>
>> First I created an ISO of the latest Windows 11
>>    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
>> with Rufus, removing the silly hardware and account requirements
>>    https://rufus.ie/
>>    https://rufus.akeo.ie/
>>
>> Then I copied the ISO to the user's data drive.
>> From the file manager, I doubled clicked on the ISO and
>> mounted it as a read only drive.  Then clicked on
>> setup.
>>
>> The rest was boring.
>>
>> After completion, I check and network mounting of file shared
>> and printers till worked.  Even QuickBooks networked fine.
>> How about that!
>>
>> Some clean up I did have to do was:
>> [1] restored the classic right click context menu
>>
>>  https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/restore-legacy-right-click-menu-for-file-explorer/a62e797c-eaf3-411b-aeec-e460e6e5a82a
>>
>>     reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /ve
>>
>> Note: you have to reboot for it to take
>>
>>
>> [2] restore the missing Cascade Windows function:
>>
>> <context.reg>
>> REGEDIT4
>>
>> ; place C:\NtUtil\cascade.exe into the right click context menu
>> ; reference: https://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to-customize-the-right-click-context-menu-in-windows-11/
>>
>> ; Note: you have to reboot for it to take
>>
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\Background\shell\Cascade Windows\Command]
>> @="C:\\NtUtil\\cascade.exe"
>> </context.reg>
>>
>> I also made a short cut to cascade.exe on the task bar
>>
>>
>> [3] updated Shutup 10 to re-remove most telemetry
>>     https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
>>
>> [4] rerun debloader.  Left M$'s pdf writer in place (sorry
>> I forgot the name), which is unfortunately required by Quickbooks
>>     https://github.com/builtbybel/Winpilot/releases
>>
>> [5] updated Open Shell
>>     https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases
>>
>> [6] re-removed Microsoft Edge and Web View (they are a pain-in
>> the ass, especially Web View, to constantly update was required
>> by PCI).
>>    https://github.com/ShadowWhisperer/Remove-MS-Edge
>>
>> [7] configured the task bar.  Shut off widgets, shifted
>> to the right, removed the search bar.
>>
>>    note: Open shell have a local search at the bottom.
>>          And M$'s search bar is spyware
>>
>>
>> Happy upgrading for those that choose to do so (it
>> has its pluses and minuses)!
>>
>> -T
>
> Did you really remove WebView2 ?
>
> Won't that affect some Metro.Apps ?
>


According to the Remove-MS-Edge Web site that T posted,
https://github.com/ShadowWhisperer/Remove-MS-Edge
these require WebView2

- Eclipse IDEs
- Gmpublisher (Garry's Mod)
- ImageGlass
- Lenovo USB Recovery Creator Tool
- Microsoft Photos App (Edit)
- PowerToys File Explorer add-ons utility
- Quicken
- Windows Mail
- Xbox App

I remove WebView2 myself, since my upgrade to Windows 11 in May.
It hasn't affected me in the least.

For reinstalls, the latest version can always be downloaded with this direct link.
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2124701


> MSEdge and WebView2 should be constantly updating themselves anyway.
> The tough part, is finding a decent quality .log which records
> this properly. It's not clear why the MSEdge updating activity is
> not a listed activity in the Reliability Monitor. The claim is that
> MSEdge is a UWP (which is why at one time it ran in Windows 7), but
> I don't know if that is a factor or not. There should be a version
> for Linux, a version for MacOS, the one for Windows 7 would no
> longer be available (because Chrome/Chromium doesn't support Win7 either).
>
> Looking at some files and dates using Agent Ransack, these are
> some sample dates on the files. It kinda looks like a monthly update
> pattern at a guess. The software is likely checking for updates
> at a higher frequency than that (it has to be checking daily, as
> part of being a Startup item in the likes of Task Scheduler or something).
>
> 5/13   90 MB   msedge.dll (webview2 package in WinSxS)
> 6/10   91 MB   msedge.dll (webview2 package in WinSxS)
> 7/8   271 MB   msedge.dll (webview2 package in WinSxS)
> 8/7   275 MB   msedge.dll (webview2 package in WinSxS)
>
>    Paul

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Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 16:39 -0700
  Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 09:52 -0400
    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-08-10 09:37 -0500
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:14 -0700
    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 18:03 +0100
    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 18:05 -0700
  Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-10 14:35 +0000
    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:44 +0200
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 18:09 -0700
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 07:03 +0000
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-12 14:31 -0400
          Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 17:02 -0700
            Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:47 +0000
          Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:47 +0000
            Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-13 03:21 -0400
  Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:50 +0200
    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:56 -0400
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 15:10 +0200
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-11 17:34 -0400
          Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:33 +0200
    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 18:11 -0700
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 23:08 -0400
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:37 -0700
          Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-11 04:27 -0400
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 02:46 -0700
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 15:13 +0200
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-11 17:46 -0400
          Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-15 17:26 +0200
            Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-16 00:21 +0100
              Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-15 19:29 -0500
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-16 15:27 +0100
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 23:44 -0400
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-17 13:19 +0100
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 13:38 -0400
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-18 15:58 +0200
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-18 12:58 -0400
              Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-18 15:56 +0200
          Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-08-15 21:38 +0000
            Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-15 18:16 -0400
            Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-25 07:02 -0400
              Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-25 16:14 +0100
              Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-25 19:09 +0000
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-25 16:52 -0400
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-25 22:23 +0000
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-25 23:26 -0400
                Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-26 08:46 -0400
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    Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 22:21 -0700
      Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Windows X-Lite <Windows-X-Lite@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:40 +0000
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-19 12:02 +0000
        Re: Tip: w10-->W11 unsupported hardware experience Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 23:46 +1000

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