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Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017

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On 8/31/2017 4:13 PM, benj wrote:
> On 8/31/2017 12:52 PM, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:43:10 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>>> On 8/30/2017 1:12 PM, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 8:02:35 PM UTC-4, Serg io wrote:
>>>>> http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/611111/Former-government-expert-disproves-climate-change-and-says-world-will-soon-cool-down 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr David Evans, a former climate modeller for the Government’s
>>>>> Australian Greenhouse Office, says global warming predictions have 
>>>>> been
>>>>> vastly exaggerated in error.
>>>>>
>>>> []
>>>>> "As such, the wind farms and solar panels are not just bad at reducing
>>>>> carbon dioxide — even if they did succeed in reducing carbon dioxide
>>>>> they’d be useless at cooling the planet. It is only four billion 
>>>>> dollars
>>>>> a day worldwide, wasted."
>>>>
>>>> False conclusion.  There are other reasons for wind farms
>>>> and solar panels that are totally unrelated to climate change.
>>>> They are called renewable energy sources for a reason.
>>>
>>> Hey solar and wind have their uses. Weather stations on top of mountains
>>> or bird chopping. But dumb greens don't do quantity. They have no idea
>>> how much pollution covering Texas with solar panels will cause or what
>>> disturbing wind patterns with propellers may due to climate. It's all
>>> just pie in the sky fantasy which is not science. Nobody (not even
>>> greens is ready to go back to growing tulips with windmills or using
>>> renewable wind to power shipping across the ocean. Those things are as
>>> proven failures as communism.

>>>> We may disagree on the absolute total, but it is clear
>>>> that fossil fuels are a finite resource. Even if fossils fuels
>>>> last a couple more millennia, this is still a finite amount
>>>> compared to the billion years energy available from the sun.
>>>
>>> Obviously. All the energy here is from the sun. But one can't simply say
>>> lets pass a law to eliminate all the things that are finite like fossil
>>> fuels and figure like "gun free zones" that all your problems will then
>>> magically be gone. Such fantasies are simple nonsense. What is needed is
>>> a PLAN that does not destroy current civilization and return to a new
>>> dark age. And that takes REAL thinking not fantasies. Only a moron would
>>> try to schedule an invention (though I've seen a number of morons try)
>>> On such and such a date we will invent the solution to renewable energy!
>>> Yeah sure. We don't need "Infinitely renewable" energy. We only need to
>>> find viable ways to get along until the problems are finally solved.  A
>>> return to Ox carts is NOT viable.

>> Boy, some issues really bring out strong feelings in some folks.
>>
>> Was I advocating for communism? no
>> Was I proposing a single solution? no
>> Was I defending these renewable sources as pollution free? no
>> Did I propose a law of any kind? no
>> Was I advocating for a return to primitive living? no
>> Did I suggest solar panels or wind turbines are
>>   the one and only solution? NO
> 
> Then you need to distinguish your views from those widely disseminated 
> by your fellow warmballers. Hopefully you are NOT one of them and 
> actually are willing to think about viable solutions to real problems 
> rather than wishing and politics which as you know rarely solves 
> anything. So do you favor the Paris Accords? Do you agree that CO2 
> causes global warming which is endangering our grandchildren? To you 
> agree that a massive energy tax used to find ways to store CO2 is our 
> only hope? Inquiring minds want to know.


one can store extra CO2 by feeding it into a Grow House, the plants will 
grow huge, nice profet, and then people smoke it, and the CO2 comes back 
out again.  however, you kept that nasty CO2 off the streets for about 
the time it takes to grow a plant, processing and storage time, etc. 
Extra CO2 can be used in soft drinks, pressurized bug spray, and killing 
all the bugs in the Grow House.


> 
>> benj, I actually agree with your final point:
>>>   We don't need "Infinitely renewable" energy. We only need to
>>> find viable ways to get along until the problems are finally solved.
>>
>> Ed
>>
> 

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Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 19:01 -0500
  Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-29 22:08 -0400
    Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-30 11:46 -0500
      Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 16:31 -0400
        Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-30 19:38 -0500
  Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:12 -0700
    Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-30 13:00 -0500
      Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 17:10 -0400
      Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 09:41 -0700
        Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-31 12:03 -0500
          Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 17:21 -0400
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-31 17:09 -0500
              Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 18:34 -0400
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 00:09 -0700
        Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-08-31 21:57 +0000
          Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 18:21 -0400
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-01 00:20 +0000
              Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 22:27 -0400
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-01 05:23 +0000
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:10 -0400
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-01 22:43 +0000
          Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 08:39 -0700
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 12:30 -0500
              Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-01 18:29 +0000
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 18:03 -0400
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-01 22:44 +0000
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-01 18:22 +0000
              Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:57 -0400
              Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:48 -0700
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-02 17:25 +0000
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:27 -0700
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-02 20:33 +0000
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 11:12 -0700
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-09-05 21:15 +0000
        Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 18:30 -0500
          Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 19:16 -0500
    Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 16:43 -0400
      Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 09:52 -0700
        Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 17:13 -0400
          Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-31 17:19 -0500
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 20:10 -0400
              Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 08:44 -0700
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:48 -0400
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 15:32 -0700
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-09-01 16:55 -0700
                Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 21:30 -0400
          Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 08:37 -0700
            Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:41 -0400
  Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 13:49 -0700
    Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 14:30 -0700
    Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 20:58 -0400
    Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 10:24 -0700
      Re: Top Climate Scientist Says Global Cooling Starts in 2017 "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-09-01 10:44 -0700

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