Re: Why is there something?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Why is there something?
Date	2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
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benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 8/16/2017 9:04 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 8/15/2017 11:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/15/2017 8:54 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:36:17 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2017 10:06 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:45:00 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/17 7:42 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 10:38:24 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 5:06:42 PM UTC+10, alal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 4:35:50 AM UTC+5:30, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/13/17 3:56 PM, alal65536@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't want to read the book, as last time I read a book on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cosmology, it wasted my time by discussing quarks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've asked you what evidence you have that everything about quarks has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been fabricated. You've produced nothing, absolutely nothing. So is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a reason you believe what you do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may be lazy, but I am not a liar.  Over time, perhaps you will learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to trust me.  How solid is the evidence you have seen on quarks?  How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliant are you on other people?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abhinav Lal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Writer & Investor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any theory worth anything must make valid predictions if that theory is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be considered scientific.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which the theory of quarks does, many times over, verified in experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many times over.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Really.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jet production in lepton and hadron colliders.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mumbo-jumbo.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it's not mumbo-jumbo. It's perfectly understandable, even to lay
>>>>>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If it is perfectly understandable to lay readers then explain it in a few lines.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sorry Banjo, But Odd doesn't do explanations. He just tells people to go
>>>>>>>>> look it up in some book.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Because for explanations that take 40 or 50 pages, it makes sense to find
>>>>>>>> them in a book, not on usenet. Obviously.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> obviously such explanations are not explanations but obfuscations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seriously? You can't read 40-50 pages without getting confused?
>>>>>> Your attention span is 30 min?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Boinker, nobody who isn't insane can read 40-50 pages of "modern"
>>>>> physics without being confused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Speak for yourself, Ben, it's not that complicated.
>>>> Sour grapes?
>>>> 
>>> Try to explain "probability waves in nothing at all" to us again....
>>> 
>> 
>> Why? That's a phrase you made up.
>> 
> It is a phrase that EXACTLY describes what physics believes is reality. 

 No. It's a phrase that you made up and is inaccurate. It is fabricated
propaganda by you. 

> You argue it all the time. What is the significance of Quantum 
> wavefunctions? I'm sure this is over your head but the wavefuntions 
> times their complex conjugate gives the probability density of finding 
> reality! Do you not agree? Of course you do. So if these are waves (by 
> YOUR made up definition of obeying the wave equation) and their 
> significance is probability density, then they are obviously 
> "probability waves". You agree? And finally we must ask then what is the 
> "medium" for general "probability waves". In truth nobody has the 
> slightest clue what in hell a "probability wave" is, but nevertheless 
> they (you) strongly assert and believe that these waves do not propagate 
> in the aether. In fact you deny aether exists! You say it is a fantasy. 

Fine up to here

> There is nothing there at all! Is this not correct? Of course I'm right.

Nope. False dichotomy. Your propaganda is a false choice between aether and
nothing at all. Sorry, dude, not the only options. Dipshit. 

> 
> So my phrase is obviously a CLEAR description of what you truly believe 
> and promote as physics. Can you deny it without lying? Didn't think so.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thread

Why is there something? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-13 09:45 -0700
  Re: Why is there something? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-13 12:20 -0500
    Re: Why is there something? poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-19 00:11 -0700
  Re: Why is there something? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 10:22 -0700
    Re: Why is there something? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-13 12:07 -0700
  Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 11:20 -0700
    Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:23 -0700
      Re: Why is there something? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-13 14:07 -0700
        Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 22:27 -0700
      Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-14 11:46 -0700
        Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-15 11:45 -0700
          Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-15 13:17 -0700
            Re: Why is there something? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-15 13:48 -0700
              Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-15 16:27 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-15 16:33 -0700
    Re: Why is there something? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-13 13:56 -0700
      Re: Why is there something? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-13 16:21 -0500
      Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:05 -0500
        Re: Why is there something? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-14 00:06 -0700
          Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:33 +0000
          Re: Why is there something? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 05:00 -0700
            Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:38 +0000
              Re: Why is there something? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 05:42 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 06:27 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:44 -0500
                Re: Why is there something? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 19:06 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 13:00 -0500
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 17:55 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-15 16:17 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 23:36 +0000
                Re: Why is there something? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 17:38 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 00:54 +0000
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 21:36 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-15 18:56 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 03:34 +0000
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 16:40 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 01:04 +0000
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:54 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:24 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 17:52 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 21:34 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-15 21:25 -0500
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 16:38 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 03:34 +0000
                Re: Why is there something? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 08:14 -0700
                Re: Why is there something? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 21:24 -0400
                Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 01:30 +0000
          Re: Why is there something? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-14 07:45 -0500
      Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 22:28 -0700
  Re: Why is there something? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:04 -0500
  Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-08-13 17:25 -0700
    Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-13 21:02 -0500
    Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. KCIR2 <rick_s7777777@yahoo.ca> - 2017-08-14 07:17 -0700
      Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 19:13 -0700
        Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 18:00 -0400
          Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:38 -0700
            Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 19:29 -0400
              Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 17:37 -0700
                Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 21:41 -0400
                Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:56 -0700
              Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 17:41 -0700
                Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 21:33 -0400
                Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:53 -0700
  Re: Why is there something? KCIR2 <rick_s7777777@yahoo.ca> - 2017-08-13 17:36 -0700
  Re: Everything is nothing because the (4-D) timescape is static, immutable. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-08-14 10:02 +0000
  Re: Why is there something? "Anthony Zen Pride Week" <sender@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-16 07:13 -0700
    Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-16 07:29 -0700
      Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-16 17:30 -0700
  Re: Why is there something? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 20:42 -0700
    Re: Why is there something? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-17 22:49 -0700
      Re: Why is there something? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:14 -0700

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