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Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Archimedes Plutonium

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Not merely content to fail just at physics, Archimedes Plutonium 
<plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> decides to fail at math as well by writing:

>Just get a tin can of vegetables, cut the end as you usually do and let the
> lid fall through the CYLINDER.

>The lid is round as a circle and is able to fall through the can because it
> is shorter and it forms a ELLIPSE as it falls through.

>The CONE is different than the cylinder, it is asymmetrical in a fall
>through of the lid, meaning that the lid will not fall through, it will be
>quickly impeded in falling.

Archie-Poo, you great big math failure, a conic section is _defined_ as
the intersection of a cone an a plane, not by dropping a circle through
anything. Once again you fail by starting with a false assumption and come
up with an incorrect conclusion based on the false assumption.  If you
want to create a conic section, start with a cone and cut it at an angle
with respect to the axis, not by dropping a can lid through it.

>So a Cross Section of the Cylinder is a Ellipse, but the cross section
>of a Cone is a OVAL.

And this is where you fail. "Oval" doesn't have a strict mathematical
definition, it just means egg-shaped. So saying the cross section of a
cone is an oval(*) is pretty much meaningless.  Of course, since an
ellipse is considered by most people as one kind of oval, it is true(*).

(*) as long as the angle between the intersecting plane and the axis of 
the cone is greater than the angle between the axis of the cone and a 
generating line of the cone, otherwise you get a parabola (generating line
of cone parallel to cutting plane) or a hyperbola

>Now the Ancient Greeks seldom if ever did a hands on experiment. They liked
>to do everything in their head, which often can get you the wrong answer.

You are great at doing things in your head and coming up with the wrong
answer!

>Now, in modern times there is no excuse for not doing this experiment.

And no excuse for doing the wrong experiment, like you did.

>Now here is a short list of physics failures who just cannot be bothered to
>hands on experiment but rather are failures of physics for all they can do
>is dictate that the ellipse is a conic section. Dictate because they are
>far far too stupid to ever actually experiment to see if their memorized 
>crap in their minds is really true, or, just memorized crap.

>Archimedes Plutonium
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>Someone who once lived near Hanover NH who just wasn't bolted down too 
tight in the first place

>All of them, failures of physics, for they never are able to get beyond
babbling nonsense in sci.physics and sci.math, and worst yet, they preach
their fake physics crap on sci.physics and sci.math and scold anyone who
objects to the babble.

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Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 12:57 -0700
  Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:37 -0700
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      Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-03 18:26 -0400
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  Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Archimedes Plutonium moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 02:35 +0000
  experiment takes only a can of veggies to prove ellipse is not a conic section Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 23:23 -0700
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      Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-08-05 06:28 -0700
  Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-08-15 17:44 -0700
  Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 01:18 -0700
  Re: Oval is conic section, never a ellipse. Ellipse is a cylinder section. Failures of physics- Hawking, Brian Greene, Tyson, Higgs, Arindam Banerjee, Mike Moroney, James McGinn bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-08-26 16:46 -0700

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