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Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed....

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On 30/07/17 04:59, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 7:54:38 PM UTC-4, HGW... wrote:
>> Of course we know there is no aether but when people believed there
>> was one, they found that any attempt to determine the Earth's
>> absolute speed produced a null result. Lorentz and Fitzgerald then
>> concocted the contraction idea and that seemed to explain the
>> impossibility.
>> 
>> Well, while that might be impossible with light, there is a
>> mechanical method that at least in principle would be able to
>> either measure the Earth's absolute speed or prove that no absolute
>> frame exists.
>> 
>> Wilson's Mechanical Aether Detector (WMAD):
>> 
>> Let two rods be made identical when aligned together. Can everyone 
>> understand that?
>> 
>> Separate them and then repeatedly move them towards each other at
>> a range of relative speeds.
>> 
>> According to aether theories, their four ends will only be adjacent
>> at the same instant IF they have the same absolute speed.
> 
> This is according to your aether......not according to my aether, the
> E-Matrix. According to the E-Matrix: 1. The physical length of a
> meter stick is not sensitive to motion. 2. The light-path length of a
> meter stick is sensitive to motion (absolute motion).....the higher
> is the absolute motion of the meter stick the longer light-path
> length is needed for light to cover the physical length of the meter
> stick.

...your first error. The light path length would depend on the direction
of the light. It would be longer in one direction and shorter in the 
other. You are half way towards agreeing with ballistic theory.

> 3. Past experiments and proposed experiments to detect absolute
> motion are available in the following link: 
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015experiment.pdf

They probably wont work if light and interferometry are used.




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A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-29 09:54 +1000
  Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 19:03 -0700
    Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-07-30 04:42 +1000
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 18:35 -0700
        Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 19:12 +1000
          Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 06:20 -0700
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 08:30 -0700
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-30 19:31 +0200
        Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-31 10:51 +1000
  Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-29 11:59 -0700
    Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 08:50 +1000
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-30 05:44 -0700
        Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-31 10:57 +1000
          Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-31 05:44 -0700
            Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 10:21 +1000
              Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-07-31 17:42 -0700
              Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 04:07 +0000
              Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-01 06:43 -0700
              Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-01 07:01 -0700
                Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-02 08:39 +1000
            Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 03:43 +0000
  Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 01:35 +0000
    Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 19:21 +1000
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-07-30 10:37 +0000
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 06:35 -0700
      Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-31 00:18 +0000
        Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-31 12:08 +1000
          Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-31 14:23 +0000
            Re: A Way to Measure the Earth's Absolute Speed.... Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-07-31 18:40 +0000

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