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Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue

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On 7/27/2017 5:51 AM, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:37:08 AM UTC+2, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 7/26/2017 7:24 PM, Reinhardt Behm wrote:
>>> AT Thursday 27 July 2017 07:44, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "The manufacturing base in the US is eroding because US capital wants the
>>>>> lowest possible wages, and finds them outside the US. If they were more
>>>>> interested in investing in increasing the productivity of US workers (as
>>>>> Germany does with German workers) the story would be different. "
>>>>
>>>> You seem to be missing a few facts. First of all, with modern technology,
>>>> One can do the work of ten, what happens to the other nine ? Well Germany
>>>> is finding out. They are so productive that there are practically no full
>>>> time jobs there, even though they cut dow to a shorter work week years
>>>> ago. Germans are calling their jobs "McJobs".
>>>>
>>>> Most of them who are not engineers or something cannot afford to live on
>>>> their own and are forced to take on roomies, because they don't get enough
>>>> hours to pay the rent on their own and make all their other bills. Older
>>>> Germans who have a really good skill set and have probably paid off their
>>>> house are alright, but the younger ones are struggling.
>>>>
>>>> Financially they are not doing all that bad, and they are not bitching
>>>> about the Chinese taking their jobs. They still build alot of car parts, a
>>>> bit less than before nut still alot of them. At one time they made almost
>>>> every fuel injector for cars in the world. There was one to sixteen of
>>>> them in every car built in (most of) the world, at about maybe $15 apiece.
>>>> And all they are is a cone shaped orifice with a little ball in it and a
>>>> coil of wire. But it needs precision and that's where the Germans excel.
>>>>
>>>> Bosch, one of their main companies, has been around for some time. They
>>>> built most of the  old mechanical fuel injection systems. Have any idea
>>>> how hard that is ? It is harder for a gas engine than a diesel. For a
>>>> diesel all you needed was that high pressure unit with the swash plate
>>>> that was controlled by the accelerator pedal. With gas you need to control
>>>> the mixture. They has a vane in the intake, somewhat like a mass air flow
>>>> sensor, and it is mechanically coupled to the injectors. Imagine
>>>> calibrating a nightmare like that. But they did it.
>>>>
>>>> I will have to admit that because of automation, the world is going to
>>>> have to be more socialistic. I don't like it but it is inevitable. We need
>>>> to have a stipend for people, and if they are able bodied they can help
>>>> out with the infrastructure, and the US infrastructure needs help.
>>>>
>>>> But finding the skilled will not be easy. Our schools are failing and that
>>>> means we are going to have trouble finding good engineers. Without good
>>>> engineers, projects are designed to fail.
>>>>
>>>> But we cannot trust the government here. I believe they knew Solyndra
>>>> would fail. They just wanted to channel some tax money to some friends. It
>>>> is almost impossible for everybody involved in that whole debacle not to
>>>> know the market and that they could not compete in it. If private money
>>>> isn't in it, it isn't worth doing unless it is infrastructure. Roads,
>>>> bridges and such. We lose money on that, but it supports what's left of
>>>> the economy.
>>>>
>>>> The jobs are not coming back to anywhere. China might pick up some work
>>>> assembling cellphones n shit like TVs. But even they will suffer as
>>>> production increases. They already lick your ass to bring in a new factory
>>>> there. Look up "Confessions Of An Economic Hitman". It's not a long read.
>>>>
>>>> But there are no jobs to bring back. Trump doesn't realize that, but if he
>>>> can get us back in the loop somewhat that would be good. I am not sure he
>>>> can. He's a rich boy and does not understand certain things. I hope the
>>>> assholes who voted for Clinton are enjoying this. (they aren't)But Clinton
>>>> could have done nothing about it either.
>>>
>>> Where did you you get this nonsense information about Germany from?
>>> Most Germans have full time jobs and are working the standard 40h/week and
>>> most can easily live on their own and don't have to take "roomies".
>>
>> Apparently Germany is in need of more workers, so they are bringing in
>> muzzies like there is no tomorrow.  Sadly, they will soon realize that
>> is true!
> 
> In Taxed and Spent's dreams. Germay has been taking in guest workers from Turkey for many decades now. Give Muslims a western job and a a western life-style and they end up looking remarkably like every other westerner. I worked with enough of them in England and the Netherlands to be able to attest to that on the basis of personal experience, but there's plenty of other evidence around.
> 
> Right wing lunatics have always had silly ideas about the evil consequences of immigration - the immigrants that excite their anxieties change with time, but the threat they pose always seems to be the same.
> 

I agree IF  you give them a job.  But there are plenty of unemployed 
rabble rousers, perhaps less so in Germany.

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Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-24 04:13 -0700
  Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-24 10:01 -0700
    Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-25 03:33 -0700
      Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 07:29 -0700
        Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 08:38 -0700
          Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 11:06 -0700
            Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 11:28 -0700
              Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 12:01 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 12:30 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 12:37 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 12:54 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 13:26 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 13:34 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 13:50 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 14:03 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 14:19 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 14:50 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 15:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-26 04:20 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-25 21:04 -0400
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-26 09:25 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-07-26 13:45 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-26 21:43 -0400
        Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 19:06 -0400
        Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-26 04:09 -0700
          Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-26 16:44 -0700
            Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-27 10:24 +0800
              Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-26 19:36 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-28 13:09 +0800
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 22:42 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-28 06:54 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-07-28 21:03 +0000
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-28 14:16 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-31 05:29 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 17:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-28 22:32 -0400
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-31 05:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-28 22:30 -0400
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-29 20:02 +0800
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-29 10:03 -0400
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-29 22:07 +0800
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-29 10:55 -0400
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-29 08:05 -0700
              Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> - 2017-07-26 19:37 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-27 05:51 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> - 2017-07-27 06:09 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-28 06:40 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-07-28 21:25 +0000
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 17:50 -0700
              Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 21:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-28 12:58 +0800
                Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-08-01 02:19 -0700
              Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-07-28 20:21 +0000
            Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 22:39 -0400
              Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 22:07 -0700

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