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Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error.

From "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Equivalence Principle Exemplifies Einstein's Error.
Date 2017-06-28 15:54 +0200
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Den 28.06.2017 01.03, skrev HGW...:
> On 28/06/17 03:43, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 22.06.2017 14.02, skrev Paul B. Andersen:
>>> The challenge was to explain in detail which estimates,
>>> misinterpretations, vagaries and educated guesses is contained
>>> in the paper:
>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>>> and how those estimates, misinterpretations,
>>> vagaries and educated guesses are used to come up with an answer
>>> you claim is wrong.
>>>
>>> To do so, you obviously have to read the paper and refer to
>>> the paper.
>>>
>>> Are you going to meet the challenge?
>>>
>>> (A rhetoric question. I know you are not.)
>>>
>>
>> QED
> 
> The paper is garbage... The word 'however' is used throughout, after 
> just about every vague estimate or guess. 

Since "However" is used three times in the paper,
that means that Ralph Malcom Rabbidge finds
three vague estimates or guesses in the paper:

https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf

Let's look at them:
However #1:
  <<
   After a careful calibration of the instrument parameters,
   each abscissa on a reference great-circle (RGC) had
   a typical precision of 3 mas for a star of 8-9 mag.
   Each consortium has generated for the full mission
   about 3.5 million abscissae. Thus, ideally, if
   the reduction is without systematic errors and by
   neglecting all kind of correlations, an unknown
   angular parameter in the  abscissa modelling common
   to all stars could be determined with a precision
   as good as: 3/sqrt(3.5E6) = 0.0016 mas

   Assuming that the deflection for all stars is of
   the form: 4 X (1+gamma)/2 mas  gamma could be known
   to better than 0.001. Unfortunately, the correlation
   between the global parallax zero point and gamma is
   very large (-0.92) and increases the expected formal
   error of by an estimated factor of about 2.5, so that
   it becomes 0.003. However, such a result would rank
   among the best determinations obtained by various means.
  >>

Challenger to Ralph:
Please specify what "vague estimate or guess"
you found before  "however #1".

However #2:
  <<
   A global evaluation of the PPN parameters by
   Hellings (1984) has allowed the use of a large data
   sample of solar system observations: meridian transits
   of planets and the Moon, lunar laser ranging measurements,
   radar range measurements on Mercury, Venus and Mars.
   The dynamics of all these objects and the observations were
   modelled in the PPN formalism and the best fit yielded:
   (1 + gamma)/2 = 0.9994 +/- 0.0008
   However the great heterogeneity of the observational
   material makes the assessment of the true uncertainty
   difficult.
  >>
  This isn't about the Hipparcos measurements at all.

However #3:
  <<
   The geometry of the light deflection and that of
   the parallactic effect are very similar, differing
   in direction and in their dependence in \chi, with 
   \delta\Theta_2 = \pi \sin\chi for the parallactic
   effect and the expression of Equation 1 for the
   deflection. This difference proves essential in
   separating the two effects in the observation equations.
   However the separation is not perfect, despite
   the good coverage in elongation, and the two effects
   remain largely correlated.
  >>
This is about the finer point in the geometry, and is
in fact an explanation of why the precision is reduced
by a factor of 2.5 as mentioned before 'however #1'


So Ralph, the challenge is still to explain in detail which estimates,
misinterpretations, vagaries and educated guesses is contained
in the paper:
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf

> It is typical of the way in 
> which the dingleberry machine has managed to fabricate masses of false 
> support for their favorite god.
> 
> The only part that might be worth noting is the paragraph which 
> virtually admits that all the experiments involving solar eclipses did 
> NOT support GR.

There is no such paragraph.
Quite the contrary, in fig.3 the result of the eclipse
measurements made 1973 by "Texas Mauritanian Eclipse Team"
is drawn.
http://tinyurl.com/ybm5vlw5
http://tinyurl.com/y8goroaz
gamma = (0.95 +/- 0.11)
Poor precision, but not worthless. It falsifies Newton!

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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