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J.O. ,

> but still Jerry is as right too

You should have read the paragraph just below it, and you would have known
his was-and-is either bullshit or at least *very* far fetched.

Furthermore,  if you would have read my messages you would have noticed that
I responded to Christoph by mentioning that his PHP session setup was a bit
over-simplified, and why I thought so.

But hey, complain first, read later I guess. :-((

> What about the case when it's time to renew your lease and you
> happen to be shopping and your ISP decided it's time for you to
> switch to a less busy network.

Than you have a  problem with your ISP, and not the e-commerce site.

Don't be as stupid to expect such a site to solve all the quirks the
intermediate ISPs have (purposely, often in full disregard to their
customers needs) inserted in their networks.

> Also keep in mind that IP can also be spoofed in a number of ways,
> so keeping track of the IP is no way a good method, it's better to use
> request verification tokens.

Lol.   I could explain to you that CSRF attack and link hijacking defense
methods must-and-are rather different (the first is done within your
browser, the second definitily not), but as you are the one suggesting it yu
must have an idea how its applicable. So, be my guest and explain.

And a hint: *both* parts of that "token" are placed in the same HTTP
request.

> PS. Stop that stupid bottom posting of the previous post, even a
> second grade news reader like outlook can manage to keep track
> of threads.

You're an arrogant, short-sighted shit   Your here-and-now is not the only
thing thats important you know.   Just imagine someone searching the web for
a certain answer, and all he can find is the current  message.   For that
reason I keep a copy of the origional post to at the bottom of my reply.

And if you do not like it, you *could* just stop at the line where I mention
"-- origional message:".  Or is that too hard for you ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:   <-- This is it, you can stop reading now.
J.O. Aho <user@example.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
erd5pbFhbolU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 06/26/17 20:11, R.Wieser wrote:
>
> >> The same thing can happen for anyone using a common router.
> > Nope.  And I'm not even going to explain that.
>
> Just for simplify things, your point is valid in most cases, but still
> Jerry is as right too and as you said we will not go into details, so we
> won't explain why Jerry is right.
>
>
> >> It could even happen at my home where I have only one router
> >> because I have a dynamic address.  That address can change at
> >> any time and I don't track when the lease runs out.
> >
> > And for your information: Besides the fact that most leases are way
longer
> > than most users have their puter on (eight days), a lease is normally
simply
> > extended (with the same IP) by sending a lease renewal request (before
the
> > old one expires ofcourse).
>
> What about the case when it's time to renew your lease and you happen to
> be shopping and your ISP decided it's time for you to switch to a less
> busy network. Of course we ain't saying it will happen each time you
> request for an lease extension, but it's a potential outcome each time
> you request to extend you lease.
>
> Also keep in mind that IP can also be spoofed in a number of ways, so
> keeping track of the IP is no way a good method, it's better to use
> request verification tokens.
>
>
> PS. Stop that stupid bottom posting of the previous post, even a second
> grade news reader like outlook can manage to keep track of threads.
>
>  file://Aho

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Ecommerce site - how? bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-06-25 05:42 -0700
  Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-25 15:30 +0200
    Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-25 16:03 +0200
    Re: Ecommerce site - how? gordonb.y152t@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-26 05:43 -0500
      Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-26 17:12 +0200
        Re: Ecommerce site - how? "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2017-06-26 17:54 +0200
          Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-26 19:40 +0200
            Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-26 21:42 +0200
              Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-26 23:14 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2017-06-27 00:28 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 10:48 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-27 07:56 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 12:27 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-27 19:15 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 22:01 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-28 07:07 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Gordon Burditt <gordon@hammy.burditt.org> - 2017-06-30 17:08 -0500
        Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-26 18:29 +0200
          Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-26 19:17 +0200
            Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 13:34 -0400
              Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-26 20:11 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-26 21:31 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-26 22:29 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-27 07:19 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 11:24 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-27 19:43 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 23:09 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-28 07:12 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-27 21:10 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 16:32 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 10:30 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-27 08:38 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2017-06-27 17:47 +0200
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-27 12:16 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? gordonb.bytf1@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-29 18:16 -0500
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-29 20:41 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? gordonb.99a3p@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-29 23:39 -0500
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-30 07:28 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2017-06-30 13:48 +0000
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? gordonb.gcghn@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-30 16:15 -0500
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-30 22:35 -0400
                Re: Ecommerce site - how? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-06-29 23:46 -0400
        Re: Ecommerce site - how? gordonb.d2wed@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-29 17:32 -0500
  Re: Ecommerce site - how? bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-06-27 10:58 -0700
    Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-27 15:34 -0400
    Re: Ecommerce site - how? gordonb.4psc7@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-06-30 16:55 -0500
      Re: Ecommerce site - how? bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-07-01 03:03 -0700
        Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-07-01 09:30 -0400
        Re: Ecommerce site - how? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-07-01 09:34 -0400

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