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Re: Which One Is Which?

From "hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Which One Is Which?
Date 2017-06-05 12:37 -0700
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"ClutterFreak" <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 12:01:07 AM UTC-5, 
> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 25 May 2017 01:38:20 -0000,
>> > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:19 -0700 (PDT), nuny@bid.nes
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 12:04:54 PM UTC-7, ClutterFreak Incarnate 
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> If we have two identical bottles one with Super Washing Soda in it 
>> >>>>> and the
>> >>>>> other with Borax in it, with no information written on the bottles 
>> >>>>> as which
>> >>>>> one is which, then how we determine which one is which?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   What are the bottles made of?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   The boron in the borax can be detected using NMR, neutron 
>> >>>> activation, etc.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   (I suppose you have some "traditional Persian" method unknown to 
>> >>>> Western science in mind...)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   I suspect the reflectivity will be a bit different too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   Mark L. Fergerson
>> >>>
>> >>> No you're reading too much into it. Bottles are glass
>> >>> jars. I want to know how to distinguish between them at
>> >>> home with household items, not in a lab. Sergio's
>> >>> suggestion is not that easy, I'm not sure simply
>> >>> heating them will get rid of the water.
>> >>>
>> >>> How about burning them in a candle's flame and
>> >>> observing the color. Something about Boron's energy
>> >>> levels must be different from those of carbon :)
>> >>
>> >> http://www.webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml#.WSY1eDe1tD8
>> >
>> > I could not observe the difference. Borax I expected to
>> > show greenish color while carbon the usual color of
>> > fire. But both powders burned with same color. The only
>> > difference I observed was that one puffed up like
>> > popcorn while burning and the other just burnt off
>> > without going through additional physical changes.
>>
>> https://www.flinnsci.com/spectroscope/ap8696/
-- 
>> Jim Pennino
>
> That's a cool device, didn't know how inexpensive they
> can be. The spectrometer I first time became familiar
> with was the size of a refrigerator :) The year was
> 1972. Of course it had the camera and film developing
> process all in itself.
>
> As cheap as the one you pointed at is, still to stick
> to household material instead of ordering something one
> can make a simple but quite effective one using a CD.
> Instructions are at:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl42pnUbCCA&ytbChannel=MIT+OpenCourseWare
>
>
.... ahahahaha... use Vinegar or Lemon juice, Mehram
Maleki, you blistering moron.  The one that fizzes is
Na2CO3  + 2 HAc =  2 NaAc + H2O + CO2 that bubbles.
Mehram, thank your Allah that you are more stupid then
the "proud Jewis Cretin Glazier, the Full Swine. LOL 

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Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@FakeAddress.com> - 2017-05-21 14:04 -0500
  Re: Which One Is Which? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-21 13:56 -0700
  Re: Which One Is Which? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-21 16:21 -0500
  Re: Which One Is Which? "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 22:52 -0700
    Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-23 12:33 -0700
    Re: Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@FakeAddress.com> - 2017-05-24 20:04 -0500
      Re: Which One Is Which? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-25 01:38 +0000
        Re: Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@FakeAddress.com> - 2017-05-30 21:27 -0500
          Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-30 21:08 -0700
          Re: Which One Is Which? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-31 04:44 +0000
            Re: Which One Is Which? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-31 08:28 -0500
            Re: Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 20:56 -0700
              Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-05 12:37 -0700
      Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-24 18:59 -0700

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