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Re: Which One Is Which?

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On 5/30/2017 11:44 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 May 2017 01:38:20 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>> ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:19 -0700 (PDT), nuny@bid.nes
>>>> wrote:

>>>>> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 12:04:54 PM UTC-7, ClutterFreak Incarnate wrote:
>>>>>> If we have two identical bottles one with Super Washing Soda in it and the
>>>>>> other with Borax in it, with no information written on the bottles as which
>>>>>> one is which, then how we determine which one is which?
>>>>>
>>>>>    What are the bottles made of?

>>>>>    The boron in the borax can be detected using NMR, neutron activation, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>    (I suppose you have some "traditional Persian" method unknown to Western science in mind...)
>>>>>
>>>>>    I suspect the reflectivity will be a bit different too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Mark L. Fergerson

>>>> No you're reading too much into it. Bottles are glass
>>>> jars. I want to know how to distinguish between them at
>>>> home with household items, not in a lab. Sergio's
>>>> suggestion is not that easy, I'm not sure simply
>>>> heating them will get rid of the water.
>>>>
>>>> How about burning them in a candle's flame and
>>>> observing the color. Something about Boron's energy
>>>> levels must be different from those of carbon :)
>>>
>>> http://www.webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml#.WSY1eDe1tD8

>> I could not observe the difference. Borax I expected to
>> show greenish color while carbon the usual color of
>> fire. But both powders burned with same color. The only
>> difference I observed was that one puffed up like
>> popcorn while burning and the other just burnt off
>> without going through additional physical changes.
> 
> https://www.flinnsci.com/spectroscope/ap8696/
> 
> 

[the puffed up one had lots of water (hydrate) in it(?))


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Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@FakeAddress.com> - 2017-05-21 14:04 -0500
  Re: Which One Is Which? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-21 13:56 -0700
  Re: Which One Is Which? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-21 16:21 -0500
  Re: Which One Is Which? "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 22:52 -0700
    Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-23 12:33 -0700
    Re: Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@FakeAddress.com> - 2017-05-24 20:04 -0500
      Re: Which One Is Which? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-25 01:38 +0000
        Re: Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak Incarnate <Clutter@FakeAddress.com> - 2017-05-30 21:27 -0500
          Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-30 21:08 -0700
          Re: Which One Is Which? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-31 04:44 +0000
            Re: Which One Is Which? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-31 08:28 -0500
            Re: Which One Is Which? ClutterFreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 20:56 -0700
              Re: Which One Is Which? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-06-05 12:37 -0700
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