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Re: Again with flux removal

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Again with flux removal
Date 2017-05-26 14:00 -0400
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Jeff Liebermann wrote on 5/26/2017 1:43 PM:
> On Fri, 26 May 2017 10:02:55 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
>
>> did you not put salt in machine? afaiu the reason a dish washer needs salt
>> is that it is used to regenerate the ion exchange water softener
>
> Nope.  No salt and no water softener full of salt in the system.  When
> we asked about a water softener, someone found that it does something
> bad to the water soluable flux that we were using.  I don't recall the
> details.

A water softener doen't clean the water in any way, it replaces heavy 
ions like calcium with the light sodium ion which doesn't affect water 
the same way.  They are also called "ion exchange".  The regeneration 
Lasse is talking about is *inside* the water softener to "regenerate" 
the ion exchange beeds (replace the heavy minerals with sodium).

If sodium is not good for your board wash, you don't want to use a water 
softener.  Filters are not effective against dissolved ions unless they 
are very, very fine such as reverse osmosis filters.  That's a whole 
other level of cost though.

-- 

Rick C

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Again with flux removal George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-25 11:32 -0700
  Re: Again with flux removal John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2017-05-25 14:37 -0500
  Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 15:54 -0400
    Re: Again with flux removal Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 16:22 -0500
  Re: Again with flux removal Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-25 16:20 -0400
    Re: Again with flux removal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2017-05-25 21:25 +0000
      Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 18:31 -0400
        Re: Again with flux removal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2017-05-26 15:05 +0000
          Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 12:06 -0400
        Re: Again with flux removal DemonicTubes <tlackie@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:27 -0700
      Re: Again with flux removal George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 08:48 -0700
      Re: Again with flux removal Joseph Gwinn <gwinn@comcast.net> - 2017-05-26 18:06 -0400
        Re: Again with flux removal George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 17:32 -0700
      Re: Again with flux removal Joseph Gwinn <gwinn@comcast.net> - 2017-05-26 18:13 -0400
      Re: Again with flux removal (Test - ignore duplicate) Joseph Gwinn <gwinn@comcast.net> - 2017-05-26 18:20 -0400
      Re: Again with flux removal (Test - ignore duplicate) Joseph Gwinn <gwinn@comcast.net> - 2017-05-26 18:35 -0400
  Re: Again with flux removal Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-25 17:15 -0700
    Re: Again with flux removal George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 06:39 -0700
      Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 12:08 -0400
        Re: Again with flux removal Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-26 10:12 -0700
          Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 14:08 -0400
            Re: Again with flux removal Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-26 13:56 -0700
              Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 20:35 -0400
                Re: Again with flux removal Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-26 18:10 -0700
                Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 21:28 -0400
      Re: Again with flux removal Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-26 09:45 -0700
        Re: Again with flux removal Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-26 10:02 -0700
          Re: Again with flux removal Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-05-26 10:43 -0700
            Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 14:00 -0400
  Re: Again with flux removal Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-05-25 22:43 -0400
    Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 00:43 -0400
      Re: Again with flux removal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2017-05-26 19:16 +0000
        Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 20:46 -0400
          Re: Again with flux removal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2017-05-27 02:08 +0000
            Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 01:06 -0400
              Re: Again with flux removal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2017-05-27 05:38 +0000
              Re: Again with flux removal Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 08:17 +0000
                Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 04:37 -0400
                Re: Again with flux removal Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 10:33 +0000
                Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 11:51 -0400
                Re: Again with flux removal Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 15:59 +0000
                Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 12:13 -0400
                Re: Again with flux removal Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 16:27 +0000
    Re: Again with flux removal George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 07:00 -0700
      Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 12:13 -0400
  Re: Again with flux removal whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 21:28 -0700
    Re: Again with flux removal George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 07:04 -0700
      Re: Again with flux removal rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 12:16 -0400
      Re: Again with flux removal whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 14:33 -0700

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