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Re: Reality versus Math

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Reality versus Math
Date 2017-05-24 09:28 -0500
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On 5/24/17 7:01 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 3:28:51 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 5/23/17 1:43 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 2:03:01 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 5/23/17 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:47:09 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>>>>>> As Tom has explained, you are comparing apples and oranges.
>>>>>> When two clocks meet again, their rates are identical, just like two
>>>>>> meter sticks meeting again are identical.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sigh.....but the two clocks show different accumulated clock seconds.
>>>>
>>>> And the two meter sticks will have a different accumulated path
>>>> distance. Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges.
>>>
>>> What you said is an assertion....”accumulated path distance” is not shown on the moving meter stick after a journey.
>>
>> Yes, it is, if you use a meter stick that measures cumulative distance
>> like a clock measures cumulative time.
> 
> But the meter stick return the same length.....so how do you measure its accumulated distance?

By using a distance-measuring device that is not a meter stick.

Just like you would use a clock (which measures accumulated time) rather 
than an hour-glass.

> 
>>
>> You're a little confused about how to measure distances and times.
>> If you were going to measure the distance between Xenia and Toledo with
>> a meter stick, the meter stick would not keep track of that by itself.
> 
> But the length of the meter stick is the same in all frames.....so what is contracting?

The length of a meter stick is only the same in its rest frame. It is 
not the same for THAT meter stick in any other frame.

> The SR answer: length contraction is not real. 

That is NOT the SR answer. For physicists, geometric projection IS real. 
Only YOU are saying that geometric projection is real. To you, the only 
things that are real are length changes because of compression and 
cooling, but those are NOT the only real changes. There is more that is 
real than what your mind accepts.

> It is the geometric projection of a moving meter stick unto the observer’s x-axis.
> The Model Mechanics answer: The light-path length of a moving meter stick is shortened by a factor of 1/gamma. This prediction is based on the assumption that 
> the light-path length of the observer’s meter stick is its material length.
> The above SR and Model Mechanics explanations are similar. The advantage of the Model Mechanics explanation is that it lead to the elimination of all the 
> paradoxes derived from the SR explanation.

There are no logical contradictions within SR. The only contradictions 
are between what SR says and what you think is true. But that is not an 
INTERNAL ccontradiction within SR.

> 
>> You would have to pick up the stick and move it to the next spot on the
>> road and then you would have to COUNT the number of times you did that.
> 
> So how do you measure the cumulative distance accumulated by a moving meter stick?

Think, Ken, think. How do you measure cumulative distance?

> 
>> An analogous kind of clock would be a small hourglass that finishes
>> after say a minute. Then to measure the time between breakfast and
>> lunch, you would then have to pick up the hourglass and move it to turn
>> it over and then you would have to COUNT the number of times you did that.
> 
> We are not talking about an hour glass for keeping accumulative time. We use the Cs 133 clocks.

Good Lord, man, you cannot read. An hourglass -- as I just got through 
saying -- is NOT an instrument for measuring cumulative time, just like 
a meter stick is NOT an instrument for measuring cumulative distance.

If you want to use Cs clocks, because you are measuring cumulative time, 
then you should be using something to measure cumulative distance, and a 
meter stick is not that.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-06 16:43 +0200
    Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:51 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 08:08 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 08:37 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:44 -0700
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  Re: Reality versus Math Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-06 08:35 -0700
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    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 08:57 -0700
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      Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 09:35 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Kého Resované <knau@wjf2op.we> - 2017-05-06 16:50 +0000
          Re: Reality versus Math Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 01:56 +0200
  Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 09:38 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 09:58 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 10:06 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 10:29 -0700
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                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 15:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 18:47 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 19:07 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 19:57 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:03 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:34 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:55 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 12:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 13:38 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math polyfrag@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 14:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 23:51 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 09:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-08 09:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 13:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 21:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 22:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 23:29 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 20:54 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 07:51 +0200
          Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 12:06 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 13:11 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 14:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 09:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:09 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:51 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:57 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 21:27 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 22:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 20:58 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:49 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:58 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 10:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-07 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 08:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-08 09:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math polyfrag@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 10:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 12:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 11:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 12:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 13:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 13:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 07:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 16:59 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 17:38 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:20 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:26 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:41 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 19:01 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 12:59 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 11:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-16 13:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-16 13:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:10 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 06:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 07:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-19 16:30 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 10:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-19 23:18 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:05 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 13:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-19 20:19 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 13:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-20 05:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-20 10:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:30 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:25 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 13:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 17:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-02 17:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 19:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-06-02 20:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:34 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 14:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:33 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 09:40 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-03 23:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 08:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 09:25 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 16:17 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-20 08:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:32 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:34 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 08:44 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 13:57 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 09:50 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 18:20 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 18:24 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 09:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 14:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 22:50 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 06:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 13:02 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 14:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 05:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 17:03 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-23 23:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 14:36 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:45 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 08:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 16:34 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 23:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 15:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-23 05:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 06:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 13:04 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 14:30 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 05:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:36 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 14:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:29 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-26 08:14 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:19 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-26 23:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 05:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 05:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-29 08:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-29 16:42 +0000
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                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 08:37 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-30 14:36 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 06:18 -0700
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                Re: Reality versus Math Sienkiewicz Emniak <iecunkn@swazine.po> - 2017-05-28 15:19 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 16:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-28 17:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-29 08:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-29 08:59 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 10:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Earnest Rives <ueeenn@wweiwne.ac> - 2017-05-29 21:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 15:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 07:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-30 08:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernest Rivers <erwm@weicnne.ac> - 2017-05-30 19:02 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 06:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 09:36 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 12:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 19:41 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernest Schwanenflügel <erwm@wanenf.oa> - 2017-05-30 19:54 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 22:35 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-30 20:04 -0400
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 00:38 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 06:42 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 09:01 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-31 09:18 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 07:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 10:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 08:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 17:08 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 15:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-31 16:55 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 12:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-31 14:52 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2017-05-30 15:41 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-28 19:42 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-28 14:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-28 23:04 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-25 02:38 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 16:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 13:00 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 21:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 15:40 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 05:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-28 12:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 07:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 12:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 18:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:57 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 19:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-17 12:53 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-18 05:05 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 05:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-18 06:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 06:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-21 05:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-21 07:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-21 14:21 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:35 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 09:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-20 18:55 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 12:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-17 15:31 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 23:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-18 20:21 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 12:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-18 19:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 17:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-18 23:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-17 14:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 09:03 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 13:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:43 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:11 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 22:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-17 20:53 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:37 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-18 20:20 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 09:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 10:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 13:08 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 15:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:19 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-10 09:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 09:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-10 12:59 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 18:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 23:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-10 11:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-10 14:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-11 15:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-10 17:10 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 17:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 16:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 06:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 07:47 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 09:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-12 09:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 10:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:12 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 10:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 11:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 14:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:12 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 15:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-13 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-13 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 09:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-13 12:14 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 15:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-14 04:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 12:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:37 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 14:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 20:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 21:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 22:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:34 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 05:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 19:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 12:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 13:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 21:34 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 13:47 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 15:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-15 23:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 04:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 06:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 06:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-14 10:49 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 14:37 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-13 17:21 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 18:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Marc Lichtenstein <eruamcn@cillnnwms.cc> - 2017-05-20 13:32 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 21:17 -0400
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 16:43 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 16:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 21:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 09:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 17:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 17:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-10 17:41 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-10 17:42 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 11:56 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:32 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 13:38 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-10 22:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 21:00 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 14:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 20:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-11 17:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 17:52 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:19 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:25 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 18:30 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 19:21 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 22:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-12 11:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-12 03:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 06:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 09:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-12 19:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:13 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 20:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:47 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 19:19 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 16:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:31 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:24 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 21:47 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 23:40 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:26 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:16 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 10:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 21:55 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:59 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:43 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 15:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-19 20:22 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-19 12:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 10:27 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 05:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 17:37 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 16:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 00:09 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-21 10:16 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 15:58 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 10:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 17:09 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:05 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:03 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:24 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 21:02 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 08:51 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-10 17:05 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:58 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 10:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 13:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-11 08:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 15:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-13 07:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:20 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-14 06:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 10:43 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-14 19:13 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-14 19:14 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-15 06:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-19 05:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:58 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Ivovanho Títu <ivotatu@ufroaw.ho> - 2017-06-19 18:05 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:23 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:58 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:50 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:23 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:56 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:13 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 13:08 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-11 21:16 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 20:56 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 13:05 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:07 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:07 -0500
  Re: Reality versus Math Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:14 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:20 -0500
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 13:31 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:35 -0500
  Re: Reality versus Math Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:27 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 08:08 -0700
  Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 08:27 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:23 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 17:23 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:04 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 15:35 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:03 -0700
  Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-25 11:16 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-06-05 22:49 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 07:56 +0200
      Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-05 23:28 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Groupie <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 02:21 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 02:37 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math einstein.groupie69@gmail.com - 2017-06-06 09:30 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 10:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Wozniak <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 11:32 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 11:42 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 15:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 22:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 12:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernardin Regoire <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-07 20:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 13:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 14:11 -0700

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