Re: CH4 for Odd

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: CH4 for Odd
Date	2017-05-19 08:43 -0500
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On 5/19/17 8:33 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "
>>
>> How can it not?
>>
>> Your QM has made you believe that order
>> comes from chaos and something comes
>> from nothing.
> 
> John, I don't know what you're smoking, but what you describe is not
> quantum mechanics. NOWHERE in quantum mechanics does it say anything
> like order comes from chaos and something comes from nothing. What you
> have a problem with is something for sure, but it's not quantum mechanics. "
> 
> Well, maybe you can tell me where the
> idea that there is no underlying structure
> or order in "point" particles comes from?

There is no reason to assume that everything has structure. You don't 
have a reason for believing it. I've asked you, and you've produced no 
rationale.

So consider an alternate approach. Something has structure when and only 
when a measurement INDICATES it has structure. Like scattering 
experiments where you can tell the difference between hitting something 
with no structure and something with structure. If you don't have 
evidence for structure, then DON'T ASSUME structure for no reason at all.

So John, what would be WRONG with shifting the assumption from "Always 
assume structure" to "Only assume structure when you have evidence for 
it"? Hmmmm? I know your mind does not want to make that shift. The 
question is WHY?

> For ONE.
> Do you believe that, Odd?
> WHY do you believe that?
> Because they haven't been evidenced?
> Why do you believe things that are illogical?
> You call that science?
> 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 09:35 -0700
  Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:06 -0700
    Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:08 -0700
      Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:51 -0700
      Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:48 -0400
  Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:42 -0400
    Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 02:11 -0700
      Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:06 -0400
        Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 06:46 -0700
          Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 06:39 -0700
            Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 07:04 -0700
            Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-26 20:24 +0000
              Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 15:40 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-27 02:22 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 21:30 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-27 20:22 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:51 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-28 02:31 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 15:43 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 19:43 -0400
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-29 20:38 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 06:10 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 14:29 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 10:05 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 15:40 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 10:06 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:35 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:23 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 16:04 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:15 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 10:25 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:02 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 16:02 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-02 01:34 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:14 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:52 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-02 14:18 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 07:29 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 09:59 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 10:46 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 12:41 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 08:46 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:21 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 11:42 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:06 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 18:40 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:36 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:59 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 22:40 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 03:06 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:12 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-06 15:36 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 20:45 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 06:11 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 06:22 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 06:46 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 14:59 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 09:43 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 16:54 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:06 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 19:56 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:09 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 06:27 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 06:44 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:11 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 09:25 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-09 17:43 -0400
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:27 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 09:26 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 14:26 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 06:01 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:46 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:02 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:15 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:56 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 19:26 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:15 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:07 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 23:34 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 19:29 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 02:39 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 21:27 -0400
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 07:57 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-15 15:49 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:26 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:32 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 11:50 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 17:54 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:29 -0500
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                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:47 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:24 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:07 -0500
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                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:52 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-17 18:58 -0400
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 19:04 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:54 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:59 -0700
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                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:50 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-19 01:09 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 21:59 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 11:00 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 12:49 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 16:11 -0700
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                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 16:34 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 07:47 -0500
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                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:26 -0500
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                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:43 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 06:57 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 11:59 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:18 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:23 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:36 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:41 -0500
                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 11:37 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:47 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-20 01:59 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 20:02 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 11:28 -0700
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                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 12:53 -0700
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                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-21 00:49 +0000
                Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 20:40 -0700
                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 14:01 -0500
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                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-21 00:53 +0000
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                Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:12 -0500
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                Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 14:54 +0000
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