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Re: CH4 for Odd

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: CH4 for Odd
Date 2017-05-15 11:50 -0500
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On 5/15/17 11:32 AM, john wrote:
>   Odd
> "You're illustrating the difference between fashioning and designing."
> If it ain't pretty, why would you do it?
> 

Well, that's the artist in you talking, not the scientist. And you're 
talking about a visual pretty to boot, which is different than the 
esthetic senses of scientists.

Just a thought, John: Just because YOU personally have certain tastes 
and beliefs does not make them more special or more "right". Consider 
that how you think and what you consider important might be valuable in 
some endeavors, but may be poorly suited to science. There's this thing 
called aptitude, which is really about alignment between a person's way 
of thinking and the activity being considered. If there is not good 
alignment, then you don't have good aptitude for that particular 
activity. This is not a personal slam, it just means you have not chosen 
wisely the activity that you have good aptitude for.

Consider the possibility that visually "pretty" may be useful in 
industrial design or architecture or any number of fine arts, but that 
it is essentially useless and of little consequence in science. Then, if 
what's important to you is that anything you make is visually "pretty", 
then you might not be doing anything valuable for the advancement of 
science.

Also please note that the things that ARE precious to scientists are 
things you find boring and of no personal value to you. This is why you 
ignore them and don't find them worth pursuing.

So bottom line is this: Why aren't you doing something with your time 
that you have an aptitude for?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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