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Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe
Date 2017-05-13 13:54 -0500
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On 5/13/17 8:37 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 4:18:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 5/12/17 3:11 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>> It is posited that these abstract mathematical objects do not exist in our universe physically.
>>
>> So let's see what things you think are mathematical. Let's take a look
>> at the below list and see if you can say they are physical because you
>> have direct observational experience with them. If you can't say you
>> have direct observational experience, shouldn't you say they're all
>> mathematical?
>>
>> - Atoms
>> - Electrons
>> - Neutrinos
>> - Genes
>> - Enzyme molecules
>> - Molecular isomers
>> - Energy
>> - Plasma
>> - Magnetic field
>> - Covalent bond
> 
> These items are detected 

Ah, good, so tell me how genes are detected? What about molecular 
isomers? What about covalent bonds?

And neutrinos were predicted in 1930 and detected in 1956. So in 1940, 
after the prediction and before the detection, did neutrinos exist? Yes, 
of course they existed in 1940.

Likewise, dark matter was first concretely proposed in the 1970s and 
hasn't yet been predicted. So right now we are in the same place we were 
with neutrinos in 1940. So if neutrinos existed in 1940, how do you know 
dark matter does not exist today?

> and thus they are both mathematical and physical. Extra dimensions of space are not 
> detected and thus they are not physical and only mathematical.
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-12 13:11 -0700
  Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:18 -0500
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-13 06:37 -0700
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:54 -0500
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-14 06:43 -0700
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:59 -0500
            Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-15 05:56 -0700
              Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 08:03 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-15 10:06 -0700
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 12:14 -0500
  Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:20 -0500
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 02:37 -0700
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 16:05 +0000
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-13 06:52 -0700
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 16:14 +0000
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 09:21 -0700
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-14 12:47 +0000
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-14 15:11 +0000
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:56 -0500
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-14 06:50 -0700
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-14 13:58 +0000
            Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-14 15:19 +0000
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 17:02 -0500
            Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-15 06:07 -0700
              Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 08:24 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-15 09:39 -0700
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 11:52 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-15 10:15 -0700
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 12:55 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 04:21 -0700
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:43 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 12:32 -0700
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:14 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-17 05:50 -0700
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:15 -0500
                Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-15 23:26 -0700
  Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-12 20:16 -0500
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-13 07:07 -0700
  Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 01:41 +0000
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-13 20:01 -0700
  Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 21:17 -0700
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 09:57 +0200
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 07:14 -0700
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 16:37 +0200
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 14:54 +0000
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:01 -0700
            Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 15:08 +0000
  Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 14:39 -0500
    Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 04:51 -0700
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 06:22 -0700
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-17 05:44 -0700
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:07 -0500
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-17 18:41 +0000
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-16 15:27 +0000
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:42 -0500
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 12:29 -0700
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:13 -0500
            Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-17 05:57 -0700
              Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:18 -0500
              Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-17 18:30 +0000
      Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:48 -0500
        Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 12:36 -0700
          Re: Unbounded math rules lead to a failed and unphysical model of our universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:15 -0500

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