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Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time
Date 2017-05-13 08:38 -0500
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On 5/12/17 8:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 7:44:56 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 5/11/17 9:21 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 6:19:46 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/11/17 4:14 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>> What they prove to me is that you do not want to talk about
>>>>>>> electrodynamics or thermodynamics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, Robert, it seems to me that you have made a life-long pattern
>>>>>> of coming to your particular set of beliefs without reliance on much in
>>>>>> the way of facts, other than what anecdotal information you have stored
>>>>>> from your personal experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Formation of beliefs without fact-checking is a time-tested recipe for a
>>>>>> number of outcomes, ranging from social alienation to uselessness to
>>>>>> political extremism to feelings of subjugation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What seems to special about you is how quickly and freely you embark in
>>>>>> conversations about things where you have no real understanding, though
>>>>>> you may have formed your fact-free beliefs about them. About the things
>>>>>> you might know something about, like how to live adequately on Social
>>>>>> Security and how to weld this or that, you have no interest in
>>>>>> discussing. Instead, you ask people if they want to discuss things you
>>>>>> don't know anything about. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, but I do know something about relativity.  I also know something
>>>>> about electronics.  I was an electronics technician in the Navy for four
>>>>> years.  I worked on radar.  I know for certain you do not like to talk about radar.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What would you like to say about radar?
>>>>
>>> We used the Galilean transformation equations in the calculations we did concerning radar.  Did you know that?
>>
>> Then you can show with an explicit example how you used the Galilean
>> transformation equations in a calculation in support of your work as a
>> radar electronics technician. If you please, go ahead and do this.
>>
> It was all we used.  For example, suppose there was an AEW plane.  AEW stands for airborne early warning and 
> has a radar transmitter and antenna in the plane.  The airplane is traveling at some velocity v relative to 
> the ship.  It sends a radar signal to the ship.  So suppose the airplane is traveling hundreds of miles per 
> hour relative to the ship.  We used these equations.

You used those equations for what? What numbers would you put in for 
each of the variables, and what would you learn from doing that?

I don't see anything in your claimed usage of these equations that has 
anything to do with radar operation.

> 
>                  x'=x-vt
>                  y'=y
>                  z'=z
>                  t'=t
> 
> We did not calculate that the airplane contracts in length in the direction of motion.

You did not calculate anything with the above equations, until you show 
me specifically what you did and for what.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 09:05 -0700
  Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 11:53 -0500
    Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:42 -0700
      Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 11:36 -0700
        Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-08 20:00 +0000
          Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:25 -0500
            Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-08 20:29 +0000
              Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:34 -0500
        Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:22 -0700
          Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 15:45 -0700
            Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 20:51 -0700
              Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 03:56 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:40 -0700
      Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:01 -0500
        Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 14:30 -0700
          Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 16:52 -0500
            Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:15 -0700
              Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:54 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:41 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 09:55 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:31 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:56 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:24 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:26 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:15 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-11 12:51 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 08:13 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-11 22:14 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:41 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-12 00:04 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 17:40 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-12 07:53 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 06:42 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-12 19:32 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 18:37 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-13 13:06 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:53 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-14 12:57 +0000
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:36 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:59 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:51 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 10:58 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 10:33 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 12:53 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 13:02 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:14 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:24 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:51 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 01:19 +0000
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 19:21 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 09:44 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 18:24 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 19:31 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 00:25 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 05:33 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 09:23 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:56 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 07:05 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 07:17 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:39 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 06:39 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-14 16:26 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-14 23:26 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-15 08:43 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-15 00:00 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:53 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 21:55 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 07:49 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 06:28 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 08:30 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:47 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 12:03 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 06:25 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:38 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 02:26 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-14 23:27 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 09:53 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 09:59 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 06:49 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-14 16:27 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 08:32 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 08:42 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 09:11 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 10:10 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 10:52 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:54 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-14 23:29 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 06:32 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 10:06 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 12:00 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 21:53 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 04:26 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-15 08:17 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 06:21 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 08:28 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:31 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 11:38 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:55 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 12:06 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 06:44 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:40 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 00:12 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:00 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 13:22 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:41 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 16:36 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 09:01 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:52 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 13:12 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-18 20:59 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 14:41 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 14:47 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 14:49 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 19:04 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 21:25 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 12:24 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-16 22:54 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 00:27 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-17 09:39 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 07:30 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:01 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 13:22 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:41 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 16:36 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 09:01 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:53 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 13:13 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 00:16 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-15 23:11 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 04:35 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 06:18 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-15 15:30 +0200
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:34 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:38 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 06:35 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:56 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:47 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 23:26 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 10:59 -0500
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-11 21:48 -0700
                Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 10:58 -0700
          Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 16:55 -0500
    Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:47 -0700
      Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 11:34 -0700
      Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:19 -0500
    Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-13 07:11 -0700
      Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 16:21 +0000
      Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:49 -0500
        Re: Galilean explanation of distance and time mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 15:13 -0700

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