Re: The rules change

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: The rules change
Date	2017-05-10 07:50 -0500
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On 5/9/17 5:19 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "- show quoted text -
> First of all, you pontificate on rules that you believe, but that's not
> how science works. Science INFERS the rules of nature by watching
> observations.
> -DM was "inferred" because the rules did not work.

That's right. OR the rules are wrong and have to be modified. BOTH 
possibilities are investigated.

> 
> If you have no rationale for your rules, then they are just fabrications
> of your mind without basis. You've already acknowledged you have no
> explanation for WHY you believe what you do. Since they are fabrications
> of your own mind without basis, there's absolutely no reason for anyone
> else to believe them too.
> - I believe that Space can spin.

And what does lofting another one of your beliefs-without-basis do for 
you here.

> 
> Secondly, space is not nothing. Space is an entity in itself, with
> physical properties. Nobody in physics says otherwise.
> - So you believe Space can spin?

Not the properties I had in mind. I'm talking about measured properties.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:18 -0700
  Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:21 -0500
  Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-06 19:51 +0000
  Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-07 10:09 -0500
  Re: The rules change dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2017-05-09 14:53 -0400
    Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:12 -0700
      Re: The rules change pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-05-09 12:33 -0700
        Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-11 22:40 -0500
          Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 03:04 -0700
            Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 05:13 -0700
              Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 18:32 -0400
                Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-13 13:38 -0500
            Re: The rules change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 06:18 -0700
              Re: The rules change Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 06:46 -0700
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 18:53 -0400
              Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 07:22 -0700
                Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 09:34 -0500
                Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-12 18:16 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 19:05 -0400
                Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 02:01 -0700
                Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-13 13:08 -0500
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 21:01 -0400
                Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-17 08:54 -0500
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-17 18:56 -0400
                Re: The rules change Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 16:27 -0700
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-17 20:15 -0400
                Re: The rules change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 19:42 -0700
              Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-12 13:41 -0500
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 19:09 -0400
            Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 09:33 -0500
              Re: The rules change Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 07:46 -0700
                Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 07:51 -0700
                Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 14:59 -0500
                Re: The rules change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 19:46 -0700
                Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 05:37 -0700
                Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:27 -0500
                Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 14:34 +0000
                Re: The rules change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 10:52 -0700
                Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 11:55 -0700
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-15 19:31 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 21:41 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-16 03:06 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-16 18:23 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-16 22:38 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-16 21:00 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-17 02:51 +0000
                Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:02 -0700
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-17 18:47 -0400
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-17 18:46 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-17 23:25 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-17 20:04 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-18 00:29 +0000
                Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 19:06 -0700
                Re: The rules change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 11:01 -0700
                Re: The rules change "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-12 09:15 -0700
                Re: The rules change Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 13:23 -0700
                Re: The rules change "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-05-12 14:24 -0700
              Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 18:56 -0400
      Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:19 -0500
        Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-09 18:18 -0400
      Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-09 17:57 -0400
        Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:19 -0700
          Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 19:44 -0700
            Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 19:51 -0700
            Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-10 17:37 -0400
              Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 02:18 -0700
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-11 16:41 +0000
                Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 10:07 -0700
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-11 18:13 -0400
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-11 18:34 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-11 23:36 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-11 20:43 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-12 02:27 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-11 22:56 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-12 04:58 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 18:31 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-12 22:49 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-12 20:33 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-13 02:24 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 20:58 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-16 01:10 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 22:35 -0400
                Re: The rules change jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-05-16 05:08 +0000
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-16 17:49 -0400
          Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:50 -0500
            Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:23 -0700
              Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:35 -0700
                Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:31 +0000
                Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:57 -0700
                Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 19:01 +0000
                Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:16 -0500
                Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:28 -0700
                Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:48 -0700
                Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-10 13:58 -0500
              Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-10 17:51 -0400
                Re: The rules change Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-12 20:29 -0500
                Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 20:57 -0400
      Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 00:06 +0000
        Re: The rules change john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 19:49 -0700
          Re: The rules change moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 05:21 +0000
          Re: The rules change HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 03:51 -0700
            Re: The rules change benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-10 17:42 -0400
          Re: The rules change Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:51 -0500
            Re: The rules change poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 17:31 -0700

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