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Re: Why Have Medical Insurance?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Why Have Medical Insurance?
Date 2017-05-08 18:08 -0400
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On 5/8/2017 5:54 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2017 14:20:11 -0700 (PDT), "dcaster@krl.org"
> <dcaster@krl.org> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 4:27:31 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
>>>
>>> So what is the point of medical insurance if your rates can be jacked up
>>> when you get sick or the condition you are sick with can be removed from
>>> the coverage?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Rick C
>>
>> I think you need to review the proposed law.  My understanding is that if you had a pre existing condition you could be charged more for one year and after a year of being covered your payments would be lowered as if you had no pre existing condition.
>>
>>                                   Dan
>
> "Pre-existing condition" means that you are sick before you apply for
> insurance. Like applying for homeowners' insurance when your house is
> on fire.

"Pre-existing condition" includes having *been* sick at some point in 
the past.  If you had cancer and are in remission, you are out of luck. 
So you have a fire and rebuild your house, now you have to pay triple 
premiums.


> The repubs are just doing the usual congressional thing, complex
> tinkering with a complex mess without addressing the fundamamentals,
> much less making things cheaper and simpler.
>
> Single-payer would just dump the expensive mess onto the feds, who
> would borrow money to pay for it.

No need to borrow money.  Collect insurance premiums from everyone who 
can afford it and make the insurance mandatory, including those who have 
it by other means.  Employers will happily drop insurance and pay the 
premiums for employees as this is a *major* hassle for every company. 
It also takes it out of the equation for new hires.  All companies have 
the same insurance.

-- 

Rick C

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Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 16:27 -0400
  Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-05-08 14:20 -0700
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 14:54 -0700
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 18:08 -0400
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 20:01 -0400
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 20:14 -0400
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 20:47 -0400
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 21:08 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 21:14 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 09:33 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 05:29 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? kevin93 <kevin@whitedigs.com> - 2017-05-10 12:40 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-10 21:02 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? kevin93 <kevin@whitedigs.com> - 2017-05-11 16:31 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-11 16:39 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-11 16:44 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-11 20:26 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-11 21:11 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 00:41 -0400
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 21:26 -0400
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 21:31 -0400
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 21:48 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 10:24 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 13:35 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 11:25 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 18:18 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 18:38 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-10 19:09 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-10 18:49 -0700
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 21:37 -0400
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 19:52 -0700
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-05-08 22:58 -0500
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-09 01:14 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-05-10 14:19 -0500
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 18:30 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 21:46 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 18:53 -0700
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-09 09:29 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:13 -0400
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 09:38 -0700
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 13:25 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-10 13:41 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 11:44 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 18:40 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 18:49 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? kevin93 <kevin@whitedigs.com> - 2017-05-10 19:18 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-10 20:12 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-05-11 19:16 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? kevin93 <kevin@whitedigs.com> - 2017-05-11 20:19 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-11 21:43 -0700
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-10 19:27 -0700
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 19:43 -0700
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 20:30 -0700
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-09 08:28 +0100
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-09 01:20 -0700
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-09 09:39 +0100
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:22 -0400
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-09 17:37 +0100
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:47 -0400
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-05-09 07:58 -0400
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-09 06:33 -0700
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-09 12:48 -0400
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:26 -0400
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-09 20:08 -0400
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-08 15:55 -0700
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 19:39 -0400
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-08 18:34 -0700
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 20:49 -0400
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 17:55 -0700
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 20:10 -0700
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-09 08:33 +0100
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-09 00:55 -0700
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-09 09:21 +0100
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-09 01:47 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-09 04:06 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-09 06:00 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-09 16:30 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 20:08 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-09 20:10 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-09 19:50 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-10 12:51 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-09 19:30 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-09 20:55 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-09 21:44 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-09 23:46 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:33 -0400
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 10:47 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 18:44 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-10 19:37 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? "billbowden" <bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> - 2017-05-11 20:54 -0700
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 00:31 -0400
                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-11 22:22 -0700
            Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:31 -0400
              Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-09 17:40 +0100
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Frank Miles <fpm@u.washington.edu> - 2017-05-08 23:39 +0000
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 19:34 -0700
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-05-08 22:04 -0500
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 18:03 -0400
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 20:02 -0400
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 18:41 -0400
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-08 19:04 -0700
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 22:17 -0400
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 22:27 -0400
          Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 22:30 -0400
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 20:30 -0700
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-08 19:33 -0700
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 22:55 -0400
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 20:21 -0700
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 09:13 -0700
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 12:45 -0400
        Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 08:05 -0700
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-10 19:04 -0700
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-10 22:38 -0400
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 23:03 -0400
  Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-08 14:22 -0700
  Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-08 17:08 -0700
    Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 20:20 -0400
      Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 20:30 -0400
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