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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: GPS and your predictions |
| Date | 2017-05-04 21:21 +0000 |
| Organization | The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 |
| Message-ID | <oeg5vs$g5j$2@pcls7.std.com> (permalink) |
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mlwozniak@wp.pl writes: >> >You promised 38 us of time dilation", i.e. 38 us of >> >difference in clocks indications. >> >Values match. >> >Unfortunately, the phenomenon doesn't. >> >Instead, you have 38us clock correction (i.e. good, >> >old, absolutely classical clock error). >> The first GPS satellite launched had a programmable clock. It could >> run at the normal rate or 38 uS/day slow. When the clock was set at the >> normal rate, it was observed as not working correctly, it was observed as >> running too fast. When set to run slow at 38 uS/day, it worked perfectly. >> Thus showing the predictions of relativity are correct. >No, poor idiot. Your Shit has predicted 38 us of "time dilation", >i.e. 38 us of difference in clocks indications. Exactly. Relativity predicts the clock will run 38 uS/day fast. The first GPS satellite proved it, because they could switch the 38 uS/day compensation on and off, and they measured what happens with it on and off. Since then, they launch GPS satellites with their clocks set to run 38 uS/day slow. So now, in space, when earthbound observers see it running 38 uS/day faster, we get 38 uS/day-38 uS/day = 0. The clock is seen to run correctly on earth. >And what we observe is 38us clock correction (i.e. 38 us of good, >old, absolutely classical clock error). We see 38 uS/day - 38 uS/day = 0 error on Earth.
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Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 15:03 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 06:24 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 15:37 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 06:43 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 13:04 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 06:30 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 10:09 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 15:26 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 17:53 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:03 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 18:09 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:19 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 18:33 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:40 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 09:00 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:11 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:11 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 12:20 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 14:45 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 14:50 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 17:22 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 23:22 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 09:07 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:28 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:08 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:09 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:11 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 08:25 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:34 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 13:16 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 15:57 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 14:04 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:07 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 14:25 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:24 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 13:05 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:28 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 23:23 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 13:09 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 06:22 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:31 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:29 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 07:00 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:30 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 09:27 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 12:03 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:33 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:13 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 20:31 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:11 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:15 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 06:22 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 09:08 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-05 00:27 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 23:24 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:58 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:23 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 15:21 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-08 13:36 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 14:58 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 15:25 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 17:55 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:07 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 09:03 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 16:31 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:21 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 15:01 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-04 22:24 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 22:35 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 14:59 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:04 +0100
Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 13:27 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:15 +0100
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 17:22 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 00:58 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 23:09 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 01:23 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 23:35 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 15:44 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 00:54 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 23:05 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-08 12:25 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:35 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 20:34 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 20:35 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:45 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 10:25 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-09 10:03 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-06 06:37 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:23 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 09:17 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:18 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:41 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:20 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 00:07 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-05 22:17 +0000
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:21 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100
Re: GPS and your predictions Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 09:39 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 16:32 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-05-05 10:15 +0200
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 01:52 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 09:00 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:15 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:10 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:14 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:14 -0500
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Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:31 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 23:28 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:32 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 07:13 -0700
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Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 09:21 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 12:00 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-08 10:28 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 23:51 +0100
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:26 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:13 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 13:13 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 22:18 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:15 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 12:33 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:50 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-06 13:35 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:01 -0500
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-04 14:52 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 07:43 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 08:17 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 09:21 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-05 09:49 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 10:22 -0700
Re: GPS and your predictions Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-06 11:51 -0700
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