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Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org
Date 2017-04-30 02:10 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>> > Light from a moving source will Doppler shifted and wavelength shifted.
>> 
>> That's the wavelength and the frequency, not the speed. What's your 
>> scientific verification for the SPEED of light being sensitive to 
>> relative motion?

>Measured speed of all objects including light is sensitive to relative 
>motion.

No, Stupid Ken, the measured speed of light is always c regardless of
the motion of its source.

>> Can't use your formula, that's what we're trying to verify. A formula 
>> cannot verify itself.

>Sure you can...

No, you can't.  It's like those old logic puzzles with the island with two
tribes, one tribe always tells the truth and the other always lies and you
have to figure out if an islander is a truth-teller or a liar by asking
questions.  You ask an islander "Are you one of the Truth Telling tribe?"
and you get "yes" as an answer. Do you believe the islander must be a
Truth Teller because he said he was?  In the same way you can't use a
purported formula to verify itself like that.

>..changing wavelength means changing speed.

The frequency also changes, Stupid Ken.  And f*lambda is the speed, but as
lambda changes due to source speed, f changes _inversely_.  For light, 
their product is always c.

>> > This means that arriving speed of light is faster or slower according to the following formula:
>> > c'=c(source wavelength/measured incoming  wavelength)
>> > OR
>> > c'=c(source frequency/measured incoming frequency)
>> > 
>> > Notice that these formula apply to all objects (including light. No 
>> > special treatments are need for light.

>No comment?

That claim is totally wrong, of course.

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Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-21 13:02 -0700
  Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-21 15:52 -0700
  Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 19:49 -0700
    Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-04-22 00:39 -0700
      Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 04:48 -0700
  Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 07:05 -0700
    Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 07:19 -0700
      Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 07:41 -0700
        Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 08:00 -0700
          Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 08:34 -0700
            Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 10:19 -0700
              Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 13:39 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 18:19 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-22 22:26 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-23 08:24 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-23 09:00 -0500
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-23 19:54 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 12:53 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 12:40 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 12:43 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:48 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 12:49 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:12 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 19:44 +0000
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 10:35 -0700
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 12:30 -0700
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:40 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:41 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:53 -0700
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:25 -0700
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-28 13:58 -0700
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-01 01:24 -0700
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:12 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 06:11 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 20:48 +0100
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 12:57 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:22 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:15 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:45 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:38 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 20:19 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 06:47 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-03 18:27 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:03 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ernest Schillaci <lgunse@nteeqea.gl> - 2017-05-04 12:37 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-04 06:10 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 06:29 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 06:49 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 08:08 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 13:40 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 14:34 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 22:34 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 04:30 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 05:55 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:21 +0200
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-05 08:44 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 10:36 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:42 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 08:33 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 10:03 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 17:14 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 18:12 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 19:55 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:48 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 20:56 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:08 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 07:53 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 11:51 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 12:23 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 16:25 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 18:56 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 06:54 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 07:14 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 07:56 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 08:25 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:00 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 08:59 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 05:46 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-10 13:13 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:55 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 13:49 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:25 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:59 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 05:48 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lokù Bukovych Davka <ocyoa@vackokaov.bu> - 2017-05-05 12:50 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 06:18 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 14:48 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:30 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-05 08:09 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:00 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-04 06:14 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:49 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-05 05:58 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:35 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-05 14:04 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:39 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-25 04:53 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-27 07:12 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 09:03 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 07:39 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 07:57 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 15:00 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-28 13:40 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 15:27 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:33 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 02:10 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:36 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 13:24 -0500
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 13:06 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:14 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 20:14 +0000
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:04 -0500
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                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-25 09:34 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-04-25 23:35 +0200
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:21 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-25 12:12 -0500
        Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 18:39 +0100
          Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:53 -0700
            Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 23:29 +0100
              Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-23 07:50 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:07 +0100
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 13:07 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-25 18:51 +0100
      Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 08:53 -0700
        Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-26 19:03 +0100
  Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 08:51 -0700
    Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 10:09 -0700
      Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:22 -0700
        Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:13 -0700
          Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:17 -0700
          Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 13:44 -0700
            Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 13:52 -0700
              Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:57 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 15:00 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 15:10 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 15:48 -0700
                Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 16:25 -0700
            Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:38 -0700
              Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:42 -0700
            Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:34 -0500
              Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 12:41 -0500
  Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 09:05 -0700
  Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 10:36 -0700
    Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-22 10:42 -0700
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  Re: Some questions about ArXiv.org Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-04-24 07:27 -0700

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